Essential Thrombocythemia: Looking for information and support

Posted by shenriq @shenriq, Jun 4, 2018

I was recently diagnosed with Essential Thrombocythemia, a rare incurable blood cancer. Platelet count aside, I am asymptotic. This current condition morphed from (constitutional) thrombcytosis, something I’ve lived with for 25+ years. While the new diagnosis was the result of a bone marrow aspiration and biopsy, my age was an additional factor, which was completely disarming, having been walking around unwittingly for the past 8 years! While at the low end of risk for clots, heart-attacks and stroke, nothing has truly changed - except the “C” word. No chemo yet, but active discussion about hydroxyurea. Uncertainty about ET is anxiety provoking and swoethatl, but I’m feeling betrayed by my blood. I’m looking for all information about ET, the chemo and support.
Thanks!

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I got a reply from the hematologist yesterday. Ok to boost. The protection outweighs the risk of effects on the blood count by hu. ( I am trying to reduce the risk for long Covid and other future unknowns. )

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Anyway, question answered!

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If you are concerned about COVID booster, call your pharmacist. These guys have a handle on drug interactions and contraindications. I have had boosters regularly. I usually feel crappy for 3-5 days after the shot so I am only getting it once a year now. I get yearly flu.

Just before she retired, my PCP said she would ask elderly patients if they wanted a COVID booster, but she was no longer actively pushing it because a) the virus is less likely to cause fatalities now and b) she was tired of hearing patients argue with her by repeating misinformation they heard. "They act like I'm trying to kill them." Sad to lose her. Hope the new one is as good.

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I got a reply from the hematologist yesterday. Ok to boost. The protection outweighs the risk of effects on the blood count by hu. ( I am trying to reduce the risk for long Covid and other future unknowns. )

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Also, I am confused about whether Covid booster is contraindicated during Hydroxyurea use. One piece I read said it is.
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If you are concerned about COVID booster, call your pharmacist. These guys have a handle on drug interactions and contraindications. I have had boosters regularly. I usually feel crappy for 3-5 days after the shot so I am only getting it once a year now. I get yearly flu.

Just before she retired, my PCP said she would ask elderly patients if they wanted a COVID booster, but she was no longer actively pushing it because a) the virus is less likely to cause fatalities now and b) she was tired of hearing patients argue with her by repeating misinformation they heard. "They act like I'm trying to kill them." Sad to lose her. Hope the new one is as good.

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Also, I am confused about whether Covid booster is contraindicated during Hydroxyurea use. One piece I read said it is.
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Hello, diffend. I do hope the HU will ease your headaches as it brings down your platelet count. That -- plus renewing my energy -- is what it did for me.

What triggers ET confounds us all, experts included. But it's been more than a hundred years since ET was identified as a blood disorder/cancer. There was no Covid, let alone Covid shots, in the 1920s.

Do serious illnesses / times of stress / chemical exposure set off ET? To me it seems the answer is probably yes, but ???

It's always best to check with your own doctor, but I've been assured the Covid booster is safe for me. That's because it's an "inactivated" vaccine. Please ask your oncologist. It seems your PCP (like mine) doesn't have the answers you need.

To better days ahead.

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Also, I am confused about whether Covid booster is contraindicated during Hydroxyurea use. One piece I read said it is.
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Ocular migraines and migraines and TIAs can be caused by high platelets and/or not taking aspirin. The condition is called microvascular ischemia. Platelets are sticky and cause the blood to clot which is good thing if you get cut or have surgery but in ET we have too many of these platelets so we can have unwanted clotting in vital organs. So if there are small clumping or clotting in the brain or eye or kidney or other vessels we can have trouble such as pain or visual disturbances. In more complicated scenarios loss of vision, heart attack or stroke could occur. That is why the protocol for ET usually involves baby aspirin to prevent clumping and clotting of platelets and some agent such as hydrea to lower platelets. The timing of when to start the platelet lowering agent varies but most often is started either by age (over 60), symptoms such as migraine or visual disturbances or by the number of platelets (this number varies depending on many factors), or by the documented genetic mutations such as JAK2 or CALR. This is a fairly simple explanation that does not go into great detail but is a general overview.
I have had ET since 2002 (yes over 20 years). I was started immediately on baby aspirin but did not start hydrea until age 60. I am now 71yo and doing well. Ask me anything and although I am not an expert, I have a lived with this a long time and have a medical background as a retired nurse practitioner. Stay healthy everyone! And yes, we can stay healthy even if we have been diagnosed with a cancer.

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This is helpful to me. Recently started on ASA and HU at age 74. I had been reporting a big increase in the ophthalmic migraines from less than once a year to twice a week. My PCP and ophthalmologist had no opinions despite my persistently elevated platelets over the year. I feel that this was somehow triggered by a Covid infection I had a few years ago. Don’t know if there are studies showing a link, do you?
I too am a retired NP, but reluctant to push when I know nothing about this disorder, but neither does my PCP!

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Thanks for that reply, puts things in perspective for me!

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I don’t understand the business of JAK2. I see some have posted here about a sibling link. Is this not a “ random” mutation? I have 2 sisters, one with CLL( chronic lymphocytic leukemia) followed with CBCs, no treatment. Diagnosed few years ago. The other has just had neurosurgery to remove a glioblastoma, bless her, awaiting treatment decisions . Are either of these linked to genetic mutations? We all grew up on military bases both overseas and stateside and lived close to the very active B52 flight line during the height of the Vietnam war. I wonder about exposure to damaging agents. My father in law was stationed at the same base and later developed myelodysplasia followed by Acute Myelogenous leukemia.

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Yes, you are correct, the MPN driver mutations are not inherited, but researchers think that the tendency to mutate if exposed to certain carcinogens could be. Dad and I both developed ET. We lived near a chemical plant where they made napalm and Agent Orange (and benzene and many other carcinogens) in the 1960s and '70s, before EPA regs went into effect. The VA has been looking for years at putting MPNs on the presumptive list for exposure. But nailing down the environmental causes (not just correlation) is very difficult.

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Thank you Lynne.. I am a nurse as well, living a long time with this. I have to temper my Aspirin use to only twice a week, or my eyes will start to bleed. I have also learned that since the platelets are pushed into production too quickly, they do not work as well to clot, and I have found that even when I am not on aspirin I have an extended bleeding time. I just tell the doctors that I still bleed easily even though my platelets are too high, and this really confuses them. But if Platelets are immature.. they do not do what they should as far as clotting, am I right? Thanks for being part of this conversation. I do not know too many people who have had this for a long time! Take care hoping for many more years!

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Yes, my understanding is that the platelets are not normal so they can clump when they are not supposed to or they will not clump and then we bleed in places we do not want to. This is such an interesting tightrope to walk. My explanation was so simplified that I neglected to mention unwanted bleeding. Thanks for pointing this out. That is always a problem when we try to describe a complex disease process we end up leaving out some of the important nuances. I hope you navigate this life and live well. I am trying my best too. Nice to chat with you.

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Profile picture for lynnevb @lynnevb

Ocular migraines and migraines and TIAs can be caused by high platelets and/or not taking aspirin. The condition is called microvascular ischemia. Platelets are sticky and cause the blood to clot which is good thing if you get cut or have surgery but in ET we have too many of these platelets so we can have unwanted clotting in vital organs. So if there are small clumping or clotting in the brain or eye or kidney or other vessels we can have trouble such as pain or visual disturbances. In more complicated scenarios loss of vision, heart attack or stroke could occur. That is why the protocol for ET usually involves baby aspirin to prevent clumping and clotting of platelets and some agent such as hydrea to lower platelets. The timing of when to start the platelet lowering agent varies but most often is started either by age (over 60), symptoms such as migraine or visual disturbances or by the number of platelets (this number varies depending on many factors), or by the documented genetic mutations such as JAK2 or CALR. This is a fairly simple explanation that does not go into great detail but is a general overview.
I have had ET since 2002 (yes over 20 years). I was started immediately on baby aspirin but did not start hydrea until age 60. I am now 71yo and doing well. Ask me anything and although I am not an expert, I have a lived with this a long time and have a medical background as a retired nurse practitioner. Stay healthy everyone! And yes, we can stay healthy even if we have been diagnosed with a cancer.

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Thank you Lynne.. I am a nurse as well, living a long time with this. I have to temper my Aspirin use to only twice a week, or my eyes will start to bleed. I have also learned that since the platelets are pushed into production too quickly, they do not work as well to clot, and I have found that even when I am not on aspirin I have an extended bleeding time. I just tell the doctors that I still bleed easily even though my platelets are too high, and this really confuses them. But if Platelets are immature.. they do not do what they should as far as clotting, am I right? Thanks for being part of this conversation. I do not know too many people who have had this for a long time! Take care hoping for many more years!

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