eGFR dropping
none of my doctors seem to be concerned about my numbers falling from 42 down to 36 ,even though 42 is already considered low... has anyone here been able to raise their numbers without medical assistance
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@alexmimi2023 Welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect!
I guess I need a few more details, to respond to you. How long ago was the eGFR of 42? Have your doctors been tracking this decline in function? Your age and any other health conditions? Has there been a repeat of the testing, and what did it show?
We may have a decline in function due to age, illness, dehydration, medication side effects. Do you think any of those play into this?
Ginger
Hi,
In a nutshell yes I have been able to raise my GFR, I managed GFR48 to GFR63. I started 13 years ago with Zero kidney function after AKD, my kidneys stopped working for 18 hours before it was noticed. It took strict management of diet and life style, so strict it became rediculously difficult having to watch everything I consumed, micro managing everything. I have since relented to a more suitable diet and watched my GFR slide. Doing it my way I'm able to keep my GFR relatively stable now with a small decline over the last 13 years. Kidneys decline with age anyway. I'm sitting on GFR 38 at present and expect my kidneys will last the distance at my current state. As the ravages of time are getting me I have relented and allowed my Dr's to mitigate my kidney health, a little. I won't do anything that can impinge on my kidneys, but dealing with other significant health issues I have to be mindful of their needs as well. It's all about personal managment. I always have blood drawn at the same time of day after doing the same things each time to give a consistant result. I did everything I shouldn't once to see what would happen. An urgent call from my Dr resulted from my rapid GFR decline, I couldn't tell her what I did but it got the response I wanted. Now I'm watched like a hawk and getting more attention than previously. Kind of nice to have her focus now.
There are many things that contribute to kidney function or not, without knowing the circumstances there is not much that can be said, but yes you can raise your kidney function.
Cheers
Can you please share how you ate and drank to get your GFR up and how long did it take to get it up from when you started your regiment. Thank you.
Hi,
One day my doctor told me I had 5 years to go with my kidneys, I'm now plus 8 years and remind her when I see her with great satisfaction, I'm still alive. Anyway being given a expiry date motivated me to take action. I stopped all excessive exercise, went on a "kidney friendly"diet and took it to excess. No red meat, nothing to drink but water, absdolutely no salt or sugar, I'm diabetic, and no man made or aborted foods. I stuck with a small meal per day mainly of vegitable, if possible home grown. No eating out for fear I'd be eating something off the list. Switched to wholemeal bread and plastic butter with shaved ham on and no sauce, shaved ham being the thickness you can see through, no more than one sandwich a day. Changing diet and lifestyle was easy as I was dealing with several health issues. I eventually realised my kidneys would last longer than 5 years and relented on the diet and lifestyle. It had become extremely difficult to stick to my diet it being restrictive beyond reasonable. I learnt that most sugar substitues had the base ingrediant of aspertane, something that causes more damage to kidneys than real sugar, that stimulated me to throw away all the dark soda I had stocked, 30x 2 liter bottles. For those unaware aspertane taxes the kidneys and eats the bones while the dark colouring is chemical which the kidneys can not filter. The recomended amount with fully functioning kidneys is one small glass per day, I was getting trough 2 liters per day.
Now days I still refrain from off the shelf rubbish but have started back on a small amount of salt and sugar. I eat lean red meat once every 2 to 3 weeks but a very small portion. I have advanced to black tea with a splash of trim milk, the milk with all the good stuff removed and a few grains of sugar. I'm still able to tolerate my ham sandwich and will sub it out for 2 boiled eggs occasionally. Because of my other health issues my diet is constrained to simple things and a limited amount of food and fluid per day. Yes I fight hunger every day. I stopped all medication that could effect the kidneys, fortunately I have a very high pain threshold and am able to forgo painkillers. On the rear occasion pain gets the better of me I have opioid based painkillers at hand.
I learnt to bake my own sugar free cupcakes and share the cooking duties so I know what is going into each meal.
Because of my food and fluid constraints I watch the colour of my urine trying to keep it a light straw colour. The theory goes keeping urine between clear to straw colour and your kidneys are working well. If you are consistantly clear you are over hydrating and conversely if it is dark you are under hydrated.
I haven't eaten out in 13 years and not seen fast food at all in that time. I have discovered by restricting my intake of salt and sugar the brain re-educates itself to believing it is not required for life to exist and you rediscover what food actually tastes like, naturally. Funny though I persist with a few grains of sugar in my cups of tea, I don't stir it and it is not enough to change the taste, yet the brain thinks it tastes better! The other side of that coin is that everything pre-made tastes salty or sweeter, that helps me stay away from it.
My mother-in-law died recently at 95, her GFR for the past 7 years averaged GFR18, no medical help or intervention and certainly no restriction on what she ate or drank. Yes her movement was impinged but she lived oblivious to the state of her kidneys. I'm 73 with GFR 38 I see no reason to panic, I have enough to see me through barring anything drastic to change my situation.
Most of us get into a dire panic when first diagnosed because it is not explained to us. CKD is kidney disease not kidney death, yes changes will be required but life goes on. The very day I was told 5 years to go I went home closed my busines, paid off all my debits and wrote my will, then sat and waited for what hasn't come, yet. The only good thing to come of it is I'm ready for the inevitable, retired and enjoying as much of life as I can well aware of how fragile life can be.
Cheers
probably dehydration
@alexmimi2023 When do you have your next blood draw? This will help determine a trend, or if the decreased number was a "one off". This time of year, hydration is so important!
Ginger
Thank you Cheyne for your story, you have definitely been on a life ride. I love your attitude and your strength. Stories like this give hope to others and me. I curious of why you stopped excessive exercise, and what do you mean by excessive. I exercise almost everyday, walking 5k, doing yoga and some weight work for upper and lower body. Also, I agree with the artificial sweeteners that they are dangerous, what about stevia that is made from a real plant, would a little of that be OK. All the best to you, enjoy every minute.
Hi,
Excessive, worked until I dropped, unable to shower myself after. Unfortunately I was a workaholic. Now days being retired and now in a retirement center I struggle to find enough work! But I still can't stop the habit of a life time when I taste work. I guess I'm addicted to the pain. I'm not able to take in enough fluid to counter the loss through sweat.
For a while I used Stevia but the after taste put me off and the alternative to that is under investigation by the FDA, sorry don't remember the name but it didn't have the after taste and I believe in small amounts it could be OK.
With CKD, IBS, Diabetes type 2 uncontrollable, Sky high BP uncontrolled, an enlarged heart all wraped up with Autonomic polyneuropathy, CKD with GFR38 is the least of my worries.
I react seriously bad to medications and my Dr's are just starting to understand what it does to me, with confirmation from a long suffering wife.
Being untreated but comfortable is better than being treated an out of control and aggressive in my mind. It relieves pressure on those around me and I feel better for it. The change is obvious when I stop medication. I believe it is possible and I have read a medical report pertaining to such rear problems with medication. For me it is yet to be medically confirmed that I have this problem. Likely Dysautonomia has a hand in it as I never had this problem before AKD from Champylobacter. Until then I find my own way through the trials and tribulations sent my way, I just keep dealing with whatever flavour of the day is dished up for me. It is impossible to know what each day will bring for me with Dysautonomia getting involved. I stay strong because there is always hope around the corner of better to come.
Cheers
Thank you. Your words offer some hope.
Hi,
I find hope is a powerful stimulant to keep fighting for something better and not giving up. Yes the fight may not be an easy one, but that makes me more determind to push through my challenges.
Cheers