Anyone tried Dry Needling or Acupuncture for Pain or Neuropathy?

Posted by judypall @judypall, Mar 22, 2019

Has anyone had any luck with either dry needling or acupuncture? I have tried each of them one time. But made my feet tingle more. The PT who was administering the dry needling said that it goes through a cycle of pain to get better. I wasn’t too sure on that. Anyone?

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@johnmacc

I did my first electo acupuncture yesterday. Just is out . Next one in 2 weeks with a more skilled therapist hopefully. Kind of hit and miss.

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Jury is out.

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I have tried both acupuncture as well as dry needling. My physical therapist who does dry needling mentioned to me that a acupuncturist is better trained than a PT. You might ask whoever is doing your acupuncture if they do dry needling as well I know mine does. I should mention that they told me that it can take months to get the desired results.

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I tried acupuncture for PN, went eight times and did not notice a difference.

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Dry needling and acupuncture are not the same. Acupuncture is based on Chinese meridians.
I’ve had both. The acupuncture didn’t do anything, whereas IMS needling was very effective to release my tight muscles, its intended use.

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I tried acupuncture and electric acupuncture neither worked for me b

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@kd59

Dry needling and acupuncture are not the same. Acupuncture is based on Chinese meridians.
I’ve had both. The acupuncture didn’t do anything, whereas IMS needling was very effective to release my tight muscles, its intended use.

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What is IMS?

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@lisalucier

Hi, @judypall - I would be curious, too, if trying dry needling or acupuncture for neuropathy made my feet tingle more. Hoping other members can weigh in on the concept of going through a cycle of pain to get better with these therapies. I'd like to invite members who have talked about these modalities for various types of pain on Connect to weigh in on your experiences and these therapies and how they have worked for them, like @scgraham @awag @2011panc @mrhappy @nancgdav.

@judypall, are you scheduled for more of these treatments coming up soon?

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I've tried electro accupunture on my feet. No difference yet but maybe more appts for improve on the result. I also think that , like any profession, the knowledge and still of the operator is very important. Johnmacc

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Has anyone found relieve from neuropatic pain by getting acupuncture?

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@piatkowskisc

Has anyone found relieve from neuropatic pain by getting acupuncture?

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I have small fiber neuropathy in my legs, and I’ve tried acupuncture. I would say I had a net positive gain, but the improvement was modest. The immediate noticeable effect was more that I felt much calmer and my body felt so much less tense. My symptoms initially got worse immediately after the first few treatments, but then got better or went back to my baseline. I have central sensitivity (brain/nervous system is very reactive to new things) though and that might be why. I would say it took at least a month if once weekly sessions for me to notice an improvement.

Working with my acupuncturist also introduced me to topical peppermint oil for my neuropathy, which I started applying every night when my symptoms were worst and that helped.

Now that I’m thinking about it, the other [non-medication] thing that seemed to improve my neuropathy is graded motor imagery, specifically right/left discrimination. This sounds weird, but for some people in chronic pain, the brain loses a strong connection with the most painful parts of the body, in an effort to mute the pain (like stories of how a person sprains their ankle running from a bear, they might not feel it because their brain is prioritizing running from the bear and minimizes the pain signals). But that can cause more pain if it’s a continuous thing because it’s only meant for a short term protective measure.

Anyway, one evidence based way to improve that connection, which can improve the experience of chronic pain in some people is with graded motor imagery. There are different stages, but I got a lot out of right/left discrimination. My PT made me flashcards and there’s also an app where you see photos of a foot or leg and need to identify if it’s the left or right limb. The “normative” value is healthy people can identify it correctly in less than 2 seconds and be accurate at least 80% of the time. The first time my PT tested me I was at like 30% accurate with the leg app.

I know it sounds strange, but it helped me. I thought I’d mention since you might be interested in a non-prescription option. This blog explains it well: https://www.pathways.health/what-is-graded-motor-imagery-and-how-can-it/

The most common app used is called Recognise. There are different apps for different body parts (the one annoying thing is I’m affected in multiple body parts and you have to pay for each different app).

But yes, back to your question, lol acupuncture did help me somewhat lol. It was worth it to me.

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Thanks for you comments. As for a topical ointment, I have had good luck during the night applying a cream called, "PhysAssist". It has oils of lavender and peppermint.

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