Doc says I am full of sh*t

Posted by toolbelt @toolbelt, Dec 2, 2023

Ok, maybe he didn't use those EXACT words.........
Went in for CT planning yesterday morning. Had a bowel movement two hours before, drank 20oz of water 1 hour before. Talked to the doc before the procedure signed the consent. Got on the table, had the mold made, tech took the first CT says "bladder is perfect, but some stool and gas in the rectum. Could you try and have a bowel movement? And if you empty your bladder you will need to drink more water and wait a while." I said " so go fart, but not pee"....."yep". Hit the bathroom, a little luck with the fart, fine with not peeing. Back on the table, have second CT, doc walks in I ask " is my butt behaving?" He says "just about, but still a little stool present. We could use this CT if we had too, but lets see if we can get it perfect. Take Seno
kot Sunday night, Gasx Monday morning and lets try again". I told him I agreed and let's not let "good enough" be the enemy of perfection.
Still on schedule to start SBRT on Dec 14.
Worst part of the whole ordeal was I told my wife, in-laws and a couple friends about it and nobody disagreed with the doc's assessment that I am full of shit......

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LOL, that's keeping the right attitude! I had a similar experience but it was just gas. Doc was like can you pass gas without peeing? "NOPE, we're lucky I'm holding on as it is" (I'm post RP)

Plan "B" was sticking a piece of tubing up my butt to get to the gas pocket which released a surprising amount of flatulence. The odor of which seemed to linger for the duration of the rest of the "targeting" procedure and tatooing. I'm sure I was an interesting color of red. Although, that kind of dignity is something we give up pretty early in the treatment process.....

I keep telling some family members that the entire experience might make a pretty good stand up set.

Keep that sense of humor and best of luck to you!

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@web265

LOL, that's keeping the right attitude! I had a similar experience but it was just gas. Doc was like can you pass gas without peeing? "NOPE, we're lucky I'm holding on as it is" (I'm post RP)

Plan "B" was sticking a piece of tubing up my butt to get to the gas pocket which released a surprising amount of flatulence. The odor of which seemed to linger for the duration of the rest of the "targeting" procedure and tatooing. I'm sure I was an interesting color of red. Although, that kind of dignity is something we give up pretty early in the treatment process.....

I keep telling some family members that the entire experience might make a pretty good stand up set.

Keep that sense of humor and best of luck to you!

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And to you my friend. We laugh lest we cry sometimes.

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I love it. Way to go and the best of luck to you. I remember the session well. It’s all downhill from here. I’m 7 months out of treatment and doing very well.

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toolbelt, you should thank your doctors. They are doing what they should do to make sure the radiation reaches what they want it to and lesson the damage to other areas from radiation.

I did not see you mention diet. Were you not told to NOT eat gassy foods like beans. I was given a specific diet to eliminate gassy foods during my 30 rounds of treatments. And the gassy foods WILL affect your treatments and set up for radiation. During the second week I was trying to add more protein to my diet and was using a protein powder on my food. Then the first time after using the powder the tech were setting up table and measurements (they also do a low dose xray to line up the markers) and sure enough said I had had gas that moved the prostrate (and it will move). I was told can see gas in rectum and was causing prostrate to moved. Had to realign the beams to make sure measurements were adjusted.

I started wondering afterward what caused the gas. I looked at the protein powder I had taken and sure enough it was Soy (a bean) Protein. I really kept then to the restriction diet they gave me as I too had to drink water and by end of treatment was really needing to do. The water helps move the bladder away from prostrate and lessons the damage of radiation to it.

I would thank your techs and doctors for taking such good care of you and trying to ensure they did everything possible to help reduce radiation damage to areas that do not need it. The side affects of radiation can be troublesome so they are doing everything possible to reduce those that the radiation can affect in surrounding tissues and organ.

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The doctor is perfectly right in what he says. The planning CT is the MOST IMPORTANT part of the radiation process and the accuracy of the planning CT will also amongst other things decide the quantum of side effects you have. I’ve gone through this myself and even during one of the radiation processes being done, I was told to get the hell out of there and go home and come back the next day with a clear stomach. So, it’s good the doctor told you what he did, it shows he cares for you.

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I never had that situation at all. After radiation started, I did get scolded for not having a full bladder,
but never experienced the above.

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Thanks all. Specifically to samidh and jc76 I thanked my doc and tech profusely. My post is entirely tongue in cheek and I am thrilled my doc and tech are striving for perfection. With SBRT the dose is aimed to within millimeters. I will admit their pre-op dietary restrictions for the CT were absent.....but I have read enough to know that a "low gas diet" is necessary. I am being extra vigilant today and will be throwing the GasX down in the morning.

Tomorrow I strive to not be full of crap!!

Thanks Brothers, we got this.

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LOL! Glad you still have your sense of humor considering all of our circumstances.

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@mikewo

LOL! Glad you still have your sense of humor considering all of our circumstances.

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mikewo we need to keep smiling and laughing and hang on for the ride. Can't wait to see how the 6 months of Orgovyx (starting tomorrow) goes. I am getting plenty of support from my wife......but she says she draws the line at feeling sorry for me about hot flashes............

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@toolbelt

mikewo we need to keep smiling and laughing and hang on for the ride. Can't wait to see how the 6 months of Orgovyx (starting tomorrow) goes. I am getting plenty of support from my wife......but she says she draws the line at feeling sorry for me about hot flashes............

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I finished my 5 proton radiation treatments at Mayo in April for my 4-3 lesion. I did get the SpaceOar and had no problems till 140 days after radiation. Slight rectal bleeding for a month and a half and I have had nothing for over 3 weeks now. No urinary problems at all. I am 74 now so I figured even if it comes back in 10 or 15 years I will be 90 and I don't expect to live forever. My partner has had flashes for a long time now along with breast cancer so the whole cancer thing is just part of life in our house. Good luck.

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