Do you regret having had a prostatectomy vs. radiation, or vice-versa?

Posted by sanDGuy @sandguy, Jul 21 8:11pm

Just wondering whether there are some of you that already had a prostatectomy that they regret, and wish they had instead opted for radiation. Conversely, perhaps others chose radiation, but now regret not having just had a prostatecomy.
I'm currently wrestling with this question beforehand, and there seems a consensus that the curative results are equivalent, so I guess I'm wondering more about side effects and the like.
It might be helpful if you mention how long ago you had the respective procedure, please.
Thanks in advance!

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Profile picture for edtrucks @edtrucks

I finished 28 sessions (250 C gy per for a total of 7000 C gy) of EBRT May of this year. I find it interesting that I mainly see Proton radiation in these discussions rather than Photon. I am two months past my last radiation session and am curious about the unknown for side effects in months to come. The local cancer clinic only provided Photon. The radiologist told me there was much more experience with photon than proton. And they used a Truebeam which targets the prostate more accurately. Curious if side effects down the road are better or worse with photon vs proton.

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@edtrucks
When I was diagnosed with prostate cancer if 2023 my R/Os recommended radiation.

Mayo Jacksonville only has photon (building new cancer center which will have Proton). I went through consultation and was to get SBRT. It is a good treatment program.

My PCP wanted me to get second opinion on proton radiation offered at UFHPTI. I did and found I wanted proton based on consultations. My PCP agreed was best for me.

Both radiation treatments successful outcomes are the same. The main difference is that Phtoton enters body at full strength radiaes all tissues and organs in the beam path and exits the body at full strength. Been around very long time and excellent outcomes.

Proton enters the body a low dose, when programmed location is met then realeases the full dose it is programmed for and done not exit the body it stops at where it is programmed to stop (sometimes margins past prostate are programmed in).

So the rationale is that proton radiation will not cause a much secondary damage to other tissues and organs than photon. Proton is used with children as have long life span and the secondary cancers would be lessoned. Proton is also used on eye, brain, etc. because of the ability to tighly control the radiatin beam entering, treating, and does not exit body affecting other organs and tissues like photon does.

What is the difference in succsss rates between them, none. So the rationale of using photon is to lesson the chances of secondary cancers caused by photon hitting other organs and tissues and or radiation damage done to other healthy tissues and organ.

The side affects are similiar because you are talking about radiation of the prostate so both side affects are similiar. If you are interested in learning more about proton radiation I recommended contacting UFHPTI and asking for their handout package. It is free and now obligation to be treated there. In addition to their programs there they include tons of research on proton radiation, and include two books (Walsh book is on of them) on prostate cance.

The long range studies are ongoing about the difference in treatments and short and long term side affects diffference in both types of radiation and different treatments. UFHPTI was give an 25 million dollar federal grant to do long term study on this subect. I am a participant in that study.

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Profile picture for thenglm @thenglm

I had my prostatectomy in December 2010. Fortunately, my prostate cancer was still localized as it was detected early. I became worried when my erection slowed down without reason. When the PSA was done, it was high and kept going up. Over time, there were no side effects that raised much concern, as I have no incontinence, the erection was satisfactory, although not 100%, and with some meds, I could perform. This year, the erection raised the alarm again, and the PSA was also fluctuating. I did the PET scan, and the recurrent localized prostate cancer was detected. I was recently put on hormone therapy, enzalutamide and leuprolide.
I'm not quite sure how this hormone therapy treatment will treat me, as I started it recently. I'm also not sure if it was the right choice. I'm struggling with whether I should do radiation instead of hormone therapy or whether to do both.

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Generally prostate cancer cells have testosterone receptors and are activated by testosterone. The inhibitors block these receptors and are often successful at stopping, or at least slowing growth of cancer cells. However, if the cells have multiplied many times they become less like normal prostate cells and can lose their testosterone receptors. then this approach stops working and PSA goes up. This may take many years. Personally I would prefer radiation therapy in this situation.

I also had a robotic prostatectomy in December 2010 at age 60 and had all the usual side effects which I have described elsewhere in this thread. Fortunately my PSA is still zero.

My father had a high PSA at age 84 and was treated with hormone suppression with a GnRH inhibitor, and it seemed to work well for about 9 years. Then his PSA jumped and he had extensive metastatic disease and died at the ripe old age of 94. He said he regretted not having been offered radiation therapy or surgery.

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Profile picture for Setters and Birds @jonathanack

Thank you for taking the time to write down your experience. I wondered a couple things as we are not so far apart in age (63). I am debating the same issue and, at 63, the early word is - up to you, you are right on the edge age wise. My health is very good, active person, family history of no cancer. Gleason 7 (3+4) with cribriform and PNI - in 2 tumors. 2 other tumors Gleason 6.

Did you have PNI or Cribriform? Cribriform is tough to eliminate.
Best of health to you.

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I did not have Cribiform, I did have a bulge and lost some of my nerves, but was also 3 + 4 mostly with some 3 + 3.

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Profile picture for firespooks @firespooks

If I had to do I again in 2025, I would choose radiation. I had my prostate removed in 2006 and have had all kinds of side effects. Radiation back then wasn’t as perfected as it is today. So I think I would choose radiation.

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In 2006 robotic surgery wasn't what it is today either!!! Robotic surgery has made leaps and bounds in perfecting procedures with much less side effects to surrounding tissue!

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