Diet restrictions with DCIS diagnosis?

Posted by kikay @kikay, Dec 15, 2023

I just want to know if there are any diet restrictions or any suggestions of diet. I was told by my oncologist to eat plant based and no sweets. Fish and Turkey. Fruits and veggies. This is something new to me all these diet . If you guys are craving for sweets, what is the alternative sweets if no sweets diet?

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@lovelife2

My oncology dietitian recommended a Mediterranean diet. Once I researched that I found Dr. William Li's book: EAT TO BEAT YOUR DISEASE. I'm now eating ? Stokes purple potatoes as often as I can get them (the true purple potatoes are reputed to kill cancer stem cells), and a number of other things that I have never had before. Matcha green tea is now a staple in my diet. He encourages dark chocolate. I'm allowing myself 2 squares of HU Salty Dark Chocolate per day (currently). It's 70% Cacao and uses coconut sugar instead of cane sugar. (It's too expensive, so I may eliminate it before I really want to!!) Unfortunately, I also have autoimmune diseases, which complicates things for me, so I have eliminated all gluten, and milk products with lactose. (I use ghee or lactose free half and half - also too expensive!!) The Mediterranean diet also helps the inflammatory issues associated with the autoimmune diseases.
Best wishes!!

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I also have my dark chocolate with black coffee. I’m now thinking I might having a hard time with milk and bread. How did you know?

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So are there studies and research on this? I eat healthy, grass raised and finished beef, organic, fiber, probiotics, walnuts, sour sop tea, veggies, etc. But, I drink alchoholevery day. How bad is this? Are there references, studies I can read?

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@mchler73

@kikay
My Oncologist, who is amazing, said there are no restrictions, but instead to have the “everything in moderation” mindset. That includes everything from food, sugar, alcohol etc. Don’t stop living normally and be miserable, but don’t go overboard either.

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That’s true . Cancer feeds off stress and if people are going to be stressed about every morsel they eat imagine what the stress does. It’s all about eating healthy and being balanced . The problem with food in the United States is all the modifications etc. Fruits definitely replace sugars or just cook your own stuff and limit sugars unless from natural stuff.

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@mitch3194

Honey is a natural sugar that is easier for your body to process and has many benefits. I use honey in salad dressings to sweeten.
You can do your research - I found this on the internet... anti-tumor effects of honey have been examined using several cancer cell lines and tissue. Honey has been proven to decrease the tumorigenicity of different cancer types including breast, lung, skin, renal, prostate, colorectal, and cervical cancer.
Buying honey from a local farmer or bee maid honey is in its purest form. Anything from China is not.

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Makes me wonder why it’s constantly mentioned in the scriptures Must have lots of benefits 😊

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@lovelife2

My oncology dietitian recommended a Mediterranean diet. Once I researched that I found Dr. William Li's book: EAT TO BEAT YOUR DISEASE. I'm now eating ? Stokes purple potatoes as often as I can get them (the true purple potatoes are reputed to kill cancer stem cells), and a number of other things that I have never had before. Matcha green tea is now a staple in my diet. He encourages dark chocolate. I'm allowing myself 2 squares of HU Salty Dark Chocolate per day (currently). It's 70% Cacao and uses coconut sugar instead of cane sugar. (It's too expensive, so I may eliminate it before I really want to!!) Unfortunately, I also have autoimmune diseases, which complicates things for me, so I have eliminated all gluten, and milk products with lactose. (I use ghee or lactose free half and half - also too expensive!!) The Mediterranean diet also helps the inflammatory issues associated with the autoimmune diseases.
Best wishes!!

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People from that region and Asian countries have least cancer cases I believe

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@auntieoakley

Vegan/vegetarian is not necessary, nor is it the answer to breast cancer. I have a lady in our cancer group that has never eaten meat of any kind in her life, as her parents were the same. She thrived on healthy and strong and did all the careful little things that I don’t have the energy or budget for. She got breast cancer at 40,
I do feel like we can make our lives better and our bodies stronger by eating the best that we can, and keeping our bodies as healthy as we can. This also helps when we do get cancer, being otherwise healthy might be the thing that gets us through it all.
If you are doing the navy version (love the term), you have plenty to think about without trying to change your entire diet. My guess is that you are already stronger than many who are joining this awful club, if you eat with an eye to healthy that’s all you can ask of yourself.
This is a time for absorbing the diagnosis, how are you feeling? Have you wandered around other conversations on connect ?

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I havé a friend who is vegetarian. Very health conscious Her sister is too . They both got breast cancer . She got it in one breast and 2 years later the other. . She always says she and her sister are proof living a healthy vegetarian and vegan life doesn’t mean anything. They also did not have any of the genetic markers .

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@melanid

So are there studies and research on this? I eat healthy, grass raised and finished beef, organic, fiber, probiotics, walnuts, sour sop tea, veggies, etc. But, I drink alchoholevery day. How bad is this? Are there references, studies I can read?

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I am certainly not passing judgement on the evils of alcohol with cancer, but there are quite a few studies that link alcohol and increased breast cancer risk. If you are concerned about it, you could talk to your doctor about it. They are trained to help.😘

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@tullynut

<p>Update on weight loss medication</p><p>I had posted before about my issues losing weight while taking anastrozole. My chemotherapy doctor told me that well anastrozole doesn’t necessarily make you gain weight. It makes it very difficult to lose weight. It seems that fat sells that circulate and are typically used and burn for energy for a patient taking anastrozole these fat cells Are often deposited into existing adipose tissue. I did a three month window of taking phentermine, a non-hormonal weight loss medication. ( a lot of the new medication‘s advertised are not only very expensive but our hormonal so not appropriate for a patient with ER positive PR positive breast cancer.). Over the initial course of three months on phentermine I was able to lose about 15 pounds. My doctor had me take a three month break to see what kind of maintenance I could achieve. I visited him last week and had regained only 2 pounds. Considering Christmas was less than three weeks ago. It was pretty happy with that. Pcp was also very happy with that. He told me the average regain of weight of patients taking phentermine when they are placed on that first break is 110%. I was astonished at that, and he followed that I was a very successful patient and candidate for phentermine, and it was obvious to him That I not only maintained the weight loss. I also adapted to the food choices and reduced calorie intake. I did while taking phentermine. So yesterday I started a new two month course using phentermine, hope to lose another 10 pounds or so, go on another two month break to verify that it was and remains effective for me. I so wish that years ago, I had a primary care doctor as wise as my current one. all I had been told previously was less exercise more. That never worked for me and had I known then what I know now periodic use of medication would have been the appropriate course. This is just my experience, and it may not work for everyone, but I was pretty certain that I was stuck at my original weight, and no matter what I did could not reduce it. I do believe without the medication I could not reduce it, but with the medication I have reduced it, hopefully will continue to reduce it a little bit more, And hopefully will continue to maintain a better weight with the help of periodic medication.</p>

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tullynut @tullynut
Thanks for sharing your story and success on phentermine.
You sound like your using it as a tool to learn healthier eating habits.
Keep up the good work.

Laurie

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