Delaying TKR
I have two bad knees and am scheduled for TKR on one of them in September. I have read so many posts about how difficult this surgery is and how painful. I am terrified of doing it. I previously had shots in my knee but stopped because the actual shot itself (to me) was excruciating painful. I can't do that again without more or different anesthetic to my knee. Does anyone know if there is an alternate pain eliminating way to have a gel shot? I'm thinking if there is, maybe I can just continue having the shots rather than the surgery. Any thoughts or suggestions on this?
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Thanks for your kind words dna41.
Now that I'm on the other side of my TKRs, it's easy for me to suggest when someone should get one done. That's my bad. The decision to have any surgery is up to the individual. I'm sorry if I suggested otherwise.
The first time I met my knee surgeon, I was bone on bone but not in daily pain. He was actually very reluctant to do surgery. His reasoning - people will be more motivated in their rehab if the worst pain they experience is pre-op. I decided to wait.
II hired a trainer at that point to get the muscles supporting my knee in good shape, while honoring the limitations I had. I was in a ton of pain before surgery, and I cherish all the days since surgery because I feel so much better.
So I agree - take some time to research surgeons, short-term alternatives like gel shots, and the TKR procedure itself. You don't have to be a Dr, but I think it's important to know what the surgeon will do. And for the knees, does the surgeon use a robotic assistant, and if so, which one? (My surgeon used Stryker/Mako).
I wish you all the best dna41. You're a very thoughtful person.
Joe
Hi nme1985 and thanks so much for your kindness!
I modified my position a bit thanks to a response from dna41. Once a person is bone on bone - a TKR is inevitable, versus going out and getting it done immediately. Ultimately it's the decision of the individual.
Even my surgeon suggested I work with a trainer to strengthen the muscles supporting my knee - to the extent I could with no or minimal pain. That was good advice but eventually the pain was keeping me up at night. I was 67 in 2022 when I had my knees replaced.
I'm almost certain that if you follow rehab guidance to the nth degree, you'll be very happy. Please keep in mind, as Capt noted, this is a major surgery. The first two weeks after the surgery will be hard. But each day you'll feel a little better, and I believe you'll always feel better than you did pre-op.
It sounds like you've lived long enough with your knees b on b. I'm certain you'll find life much more enjoyable after the surgery.
Best wishes to you for your surgery and a speedy and ultimately pain-free recovery!
Joe
Thanks Bill. Yeah I try to avoid absolutes, but one bad experience, especially with surgery, is bound to change how one views surgery and surgeons.
I still remember living in a Chicago suburb around 2008. I had just arrived and didn't know any Drs. The sciatica I had was extremely painful, like stabbing pain in my calf and hamstrings. When I found an ortho surgeon, he immediately recommended fusing three vertebrae - S1/L5/L4, and he was available within the next week to do the surgery, which he strongly recommended.
Even in a huge mount of pain, this just screamed "Be Careful!" I looked for other Drs, and this case of sciatica resolved on its own, which many do.
We owe it to ourselves to be informed and careful in evaluating a surgeon and their recommendations. And we should also do some research on our own conditions and the proposed alternatives.
Thanks for your kind reply Bill - and all the best to you.
Joe
Hi, I was the same as you, terrified of the knee replacement, couldn't sleep, anxious. And I won't lie it is painful. But, Im glad I've had it done now. Like you I had the injections, but over long term they weren't working. The longer you wait for surgery the worse your knee gets. That was for me anyway. Its been 3 weeks now. I can get about on one crutch, do loads of stuff indoors and the pain has gone, just some cramps. If you do the exercises before and after it helps. All the best.
Well said Lawanna.
Yeah people can be b on b for years without a lot of pain. It's hard to have surgery when the pain is non-existent, or manageable. That said, I still believe replacement is the best lt option.
But even in retirement, joint-replacement surgery is a burden - on the patient and whoever is helping the patient. I had my left shoulder replaced on Aug 6th and can't imagine how the time since would have passed without my wife's help.
Stay strong Lawanna!
Joe
I had my left knee done 4 years ago. My surgeon was recommended by a number of people. He has done many of these procedures and is well respected and has a very, very low infection rate. The surgery went well and I followed aftercare, home exercises and pt religiously. I never needed a walker or crutches. Pain was minimal but I took the recommended pain meds to stay ahead of the pain. I had the support of my husband but it was stressful for him. Good luck with your tkr.
Thanks Pinkie. Sounds like you're doing great at 3 weeks. To paraphrase you a bit - what you get from a joint replacement is equal to the work you put into your recovery.
All I would add is that the window to work on rehab is small, and starts as soon as the surgery ends and the anesthesia wears off. I was taken on a walk in the recovery area by a PT, and did all the recommended exercises 3x/day. I also saw a PT twice a week, and these were valuable sessions.
The timing of the surgery is personal. Once a person is bone on bone, only a replacement will fix the problem and remove the pain. Good surgeons are booking out approximately 3 to 6 months, and it can take 3 months to get a first appointment.
I advise anyone considering this to find a good surgeon and ask a lot of questions.
Thanks again Pinkie!
Joe
Hi Joe,
Thank you so much for your encouragement. It means the world to me. The whole thing is scary, but I have no choice like you know take care.
Best,
Nina
Just bookmarked your insights! I waffled for a couple of years between doing whatever it took to put the TKR off as long as possible, and getting it done while I was still in reasonable shape and the pain was tolerable. Finally decided on delaying it. Only time will tell if it proves to be the right choice...
Thank you, Pinkie. Yes, I am terrified and I also worry about the support I will have afterward. I live alone. I have a son who has a very stressful, travel-heavy job. I really can't rely on him being able to help much. I appreciate your encouragement.