Contemplating NOT having suggested gallbladder surgery!

Posted by libertyusa @libertyusa, Feb 26, 2019

It is interesting reading the experience of others. I must remind myself we all are of "unknown" reliability. However, here goes: It has been suggested I have gallbladder removal due to surprising symptoms (attack?) that started 5 months ago: tremendous tightness in upper right quadrant, no warnings, "almost" some shortness of breath and vague pressure traveling upward in back/chest/arms (hard to describe), brief cold sweat. Distressing but not SUPER painful. I have only had a few of these "big" episodes; maybe weekly I have a milder version of the above. Ultrasound showed gallstones. I AM ADAMANT about trying not to lose this organ. I just had 3 elective surgeries in 3 years - all successful (2 total knee replacements and 1 dental bridge). I have always been quite healthy and will go to extremes to avoid surgery. Sorry, I am leary of doctors. I am seeking a great gastroenterologist or alternative medicine Dr. as I am determined to not follow doctors' advice. I have read about gallstones that can cause fatal damage if they pass into pancreas, etc. But I am trying to figure out how to manage. Have discovered smaller meals seem to help, choosing proper foods for this condition, eating slower (I think). But, I still cannot predict when an attack will occur. I am fearful of infections because of my 2 knee replacements. I do not get infections actually; am quite healthy, very active physically, intellectually engaged in volunteer projects and teaching. So far I REFUSE TO CONSIDER SURGERY. Please do not stereotype me when I reveal chronological age (78 yr. old female). I consider myself more like 60-65. My attitude is one of shock and annoyance that this problem arose and that surgery has (possibly) been suggested. People say "it is easy"; not a big deal. Shall I wait for more disturbing symptoms? See if I can handle this myself? Get multiple opinions? Thank you for your comments (I realize there is no definite answer.)

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Profile picture for wisewoman10 @wisewoman10

Good luck to you as well! I hope everything goes smooth and easy. I actually had to cancel my surgery because I just learned that my brother (my only sib) is hospitalized in Virginia for a serious infection in his spinal column. He has many risk factors, and his wife is scheduled for back surgery on Thursday. I am the least urgent/emergent one in the family, so I will postpone to allow time for me to go help care for them. Not worried about a delay, as my original post was a curiosity as to whether my surgery would be premature with only one gall bladder attack! I know this is something I will have to deal with, and perhaps sooner than later, but all things being relative, I need to help the family right now.

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Oh yes! They really need some support it sounds like. I'm glad you are able to be there for them. Best to all of you. Spinal infection and back surgery are both very serious indeed. They are lucky to have you.

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I have had severe upper right quadrant abdominal pain for several weeks that finally subsided in the past few days. In the meantime, I had an abdominal ultrasound that revealed a "mobile gallstone" and gallstone sludge. I was astounded because I eat a really healthy diet, exercise regularly and am not overweight. Also no family history of gallbladder disease. However, 4 years ago, my appendix ruptured after one day of pain and no history of appendicitis. I never want that kind of emergency again, as the peritonitis that ensued was horrendous and it took six months to get my digestion and regularity back online. Both my PCP and general surgeon have recommended elective cholecystectomy, which I have scheduled for next week, but I'm having second thoughts after only one (albeit prolonged) gallbladder attack. I'm afraid of the cure being worse than the disease. Has anyone had their gallbladder removed after only a short period of gallbladder pain? Thanks for any input!

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I had the same experience with my appendix! What a horror. Can you get a second opinion on the surgery? If it is all fine right now, how about waiting until it happens again? Please consult with a doctor who is not a surgeon. Good luck!

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Profile picture for wisewoman10 @wisewoman10

I have had severe upper right quadrant abdominal pain for several weeks that finally subsided in the past few days. In the meantime, I had an abdominal ultrasound that revealed a "mobile gallstone" and gallstone sludge. I was astounded because I eat a really healthy diet, exercise regularly and am not overweight. Also no family history of gallbladder disease. However, 4 years ago, my appendix ruptured after one day of pain and no history of appendicitis. I never want that kind of emergency again, as the peritonitis that ensued was horrendous and it took six months to get my digestion and regularity back online. Both my PCP and general surgeon have recommended elective cholecystectomy, which I have scheduled for next week, but I'm having second thoughts after only one (albeit prolonged) gallbladder attack. I'm afraid of the cure being worse than the disease. Has anyone had their gallbladder removed after only a short period of gallbladder pain? Thanks for any input!

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Surgeons normally say yes take GB out. Don't eat anything oily and see how it goes. Two doctors and one surgeon told me to take it out and I have not yet.

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Surgeons normally say yes take GB out. Don't eat anything oily and see how it goes. Two doctors and one surgeon told me to take it out and I have not yet.

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My Dr told me take gallbladder out because its functioning at 17% but I said no since it doesn't hurt! I also have chronic pancreatitis I asked if taking out gallbladder would fix pancreas but she said no, so I'm hanging on to it, I think Drs make lot of money taking out gallbladder, it just doesn't make sense to me if I'm not having pain .

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My Dr told me take gallbladder out because its functioning at 17% but I said no since it doesn't hurt! I also have chronic pancreatitis I asked if taking out gallbladder would fix pancreas but she said no, so I'm hanging on to it, I think Drs make lot of money taking out gallbladder, it just doesn't make sense to me if I'm not having pain .

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Just have chew your food really good and no bacons or any oily food, butter, full fat milk or any oily meat. Chew food really good. Just be careful stones don't go into your duct and into pancreas. If they do, the pancreas juice will start secreting and starts eating organs around it and they have to out tubes inside to get the juice out. Pancreas is one of the organs that can damage everything inside the belly area. I also have cysts in pancreas. They are monitoring it. One doctor wanted to poke at it to get sample of cyst and the other says don't touch it if cyst small, there is a chance they touch the pancreas. I have read that core of the pineapple is good for pancreatitis. I think you are supposed to boil with some water and drink the water. Google it and see if I am correct.

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Just have chew your food really good and no bacons or any oily food, butter, full fat milk or any oily meat. Chew food really good. Just be careful stones don't go into your duct and into pancreas. If they do, the pancreas juice will start secreting and starts eating organs around it and they have to out tubes inside to get the juice out. Pancreas is one of the organs that can damage everything inside the belly area. I also have cysts in pancreas. They are monitoring it. One doctor wanted to poke at it to get sample of cyst and the other says don't touch it if cyst small, there is a chance they touch the pancreas. I have read that core of the pineapple is good for pancreatitis. I think you are supposed to boil with some water and drink the water. Google it and see if I am correct.

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I don't eat red meat and stay away from fats and alcohol, I have no stones my ducts are good and normal Dr said but my pancreas is abnormal, measuring 2mm. No cyst just gallbladder not working properly and chronic pancreatitis, I have to take enzymes every time I eat, I feel pain only when I eat something fatty so I try my best not to eat fatty stuff, I will Google that about core of pineapple , very interesting, thank you

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Oh yes! They really need some support it sounds like. I'm glad you are able to be there for them. Best to all of you. Spinal infection and back surgery are both very serious indeed. They are lucky to have you.

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I am trying to find out if your surgery and wisewoman10's surgery is finished and everyone is home and in a happy mood? I just joined last week and I am constantly confused and lost lol....therefore, would you somehow drop me a note letting me know how you are doing? I am now going to search for wisewoman 10.......Be well and happy!

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I am trying to find out if your surgery and wisewoman10's surgery is finished and everyone is home and in a happy mood? I just joined last week and I am constantly confused and lost lol....therefore, would you somehow drop me a note letting me know how you are doing? I am now going to search for wisewoman 10.......Be well and happy!

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Hi - This is wisewoman10! I made an eleventh hour decision to postpone my surgery that was scheduled for this past Wednesday. The combination of feeling that it was premature (Only one gallbladder attack so far) combined with a family member who's been hospitalized for a week needing my help as he returns home was enough to change my decision. In the meantime, I have started taking Milk Thistle and Tudca to see if I can help improve my bile flow. Western medicine doctors generally won't advise this stuff, but there's plenty of evidence that these can help your biliary system flow better. Not ready to give up an organ until I at least try!

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Profile picture for wisewoman10 @wisewoman10

I have had severe upper right quadrant abdominal pain for several weeks that finally subsided in the past few days. In the meantime, I had an abdominal ultrasound that revealed a "mobile gallstone" and gallstone sludge. I was astounded because I eat a really healthy diet, exercise regularly and am not overweight. Also no family history of gallbladder disease. However, 4 years ago, my appendix ruptured after one day of pain and no history of appendicitis. I never want that kind of emergency again, as the peritonitis that ensued was horrendous and it took six months to get my digestion and regularity back online. Both my PCP and general surgeon have recommended elective cholecystectomy, which I have scheduled for next week, but I'm having second thoughts after only one (albeit prolonged) gallbladder attack. I'm afraid of the cure being worse than the disease. Has anyone had their gallbladder removed after only a short period of gallbladder pain? Thanks for any input!

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I had a cholecystectomy 12 days ago. It was after I had two months of pain including two visits to the ED. When I woke from surgery I was in a great deal of pain. It felt like someone broke my ribs, The pain is subsiding but was more than I expected. The surgeon found sludge and chronic inflammation so it was a good thing I had my gallbladder removed.

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Profile picture for misssuezq @misssuezq

I had a cholecystectomy 12 days ago. It was after I had two months of pain including two visits to the ED. When I woke from surgery I was in a great deal of pain. It felt like someone broke my ribs, The pain is subsiding but was more than I expected. The surgeon found sludge and chronic inflammation so it was a good thing I had my gallbladder removed.

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Was the inflammation on pancreas? Or gallbladder? I asked my Dr if I take my gallbladder out if it would fix pancreas she said no, I'm just wondering if that was your case thanks

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