Chronic severe nocturnal hypnic headaches

OH MY GOODNESS! THANK YOU for your amazing update. I am thrilled beyond measure that the coffee ketorolac combo has mitigated those horrendous unbearable hypnic/cluster headaches. I am so sorry I could not read this before. We moved my father in-law into hospice care Wednesday and have had challenges and been with him around the clock. Also was stricken with my usual "end of dose failure" of my CGRP injectable preventative, Ajovy (sickly daytime migraines) .

I am so so happy for you! Please ask your MD pronto--call them on Monday--ask whether or not you might need concomitant Protonix/pantoprozole to prevent GI bleeding (due to the Ketorolac and any day-time nonsteroidals you might be taking such as Motrin, naproxin, aspirin an many others). Ketorolac is only recommended for 5 days or fewer in a row. It, like Indomethacin/Indocin, can have serious side effects on the GI (gastric bleeding, ulcers and holes in stomach or intestine), kidney failure, heightened risk of heart attack, and others). Now that you feel better, the last thing you would want to do have uncontrolled GI bleeding or worse. Here is a link to more info: https://medlineplus.gov/druginfo/meds/a693001.html

Ketorolac, like Indomethacin (Indocin) also has a BLACK BOX Warning to to the risk of intestinal bleeding.

Please tell Dr. Sacco I said HELLO and appreciated her help back in 2005 and 2006. I hope and pray she can help you feel even better and treat your headaches more safely than daily Indocin. I wonder if she will recommend keeping Ketorolac in your regimen or trying an alternative. Please please keep me posted!! I hope you are well on your way to getting your life back!!!

OH MY GOODNESS! THANK YOU for your amazing update. I am thrilled beyond measure that the coffee ketorolac combo has mitigated those horrendous unbearable hypnic/cluster headaches. I am so sorry I could not read this before. We moved my father in-law into hospice care Wednesday and have had challenges and been with him around the clock. Also was stricken with my usual "end of dose failure" of my CGRP injectable preventative, Ajovy (sickly daytime migraines) .

I am so so happy for you! Please ask your MD pronto--call them on Monday--ask whether or not you might need concomitant Protonix/pantoprozole to prevent GI bleeding (due to the Ketorolac and any day-time nonsteroidals you might be taking such as Motrin, naproxin, aspirin an many others). Ketorolac is only recommended for 5 days or fewer in a row. It, like Indomethacin/Indocin, can have serious side effects on the GI (gastric bleeding, ulcers and holes in stomach or intestine), kidney failure, heightened risk of heart attack, and others). Now that you feel better, the last thing you would want to do have uncontrolled GI bleeding or worse. Here is a link to more info: https://medlineplus.gov/druginfo/meds/a693001.html

Ketorolac, like Indomethacin (Indocin) also has a BLACK BOX Warning to to the risk of intestinal bleeding.

Please tell Dr. Sacco I said HELLO and appreciated her help back in 2005 and 2006. I hope and pray she can help you feel even better and treat your headaches more safely than daily Indocin. I wonder if she will recommend keeping Ketorolac in your regimen or trying an alternative. Please please keep me posted!! I hope you are well on your way to getting your life back!!!

OH MY GOODNESS! THANK YOU for your amazing update. I am thrilled beyond measure that the coffee ketorolac combo has mitigated those horrendous unbearable hypnic/cluster headaches. I am so sorry I could not read this before. We moved my father in-law into hospice care Wednesday and have had challenges and been with him around the clock. Also was stricken with my usual "end of dose failure" of my CGRP injectable preventative, Ajovy (sickly daytime migraines) .

I am so so happy for you! Please ask your MD pronto--call them on Monday--ask whether or not you might need concomitant Protonix/pantoprozole to prevent GI bleeding (due to the Ketorolac and any day-time nonsteroidals you might be taking such as Motrin, naproxin, aspirin an many others). Ketorolac is only recommended for 5 days or fewer in a row. It, like Indomethacin/Indocin, can have serious side effects on the GI (gastric bleeding, ulcers and holes in stomach or intestine), kidney failure, heightened risk of heart attack, and others). Now that you feel better, the last thing you would want to do have uncontrolled GI bleeding or worse. Here is a link to more info: https://medlineplus.gov/druginfo/meds/a693001.html

Ketorolac, like Indomethacin (Indocin) also has a BLACK BOX Warning to to the risk of intestinal bleeding.

Please tell Dr. Sacco I said HELLO and appreciated her help back in 2005 and 2006. I hope and pray she can help you feel even better and treat your headaches more safely than daily Indocin. I wonder if she will recommend keeping Ketorolac in your regimen or trying an alternative. Please please keep me posted!! I hope you are well on your way to getting your life back!!!

I’m 48, something I forgot to add earlier. I’ve tried a cup of coffee four nights in a row and no episodes. I’ve woken up with a headache, popped a Keroralic and was able to go back to sleep. Never turned into the excruciating throbbing like a cluster headache. I believe it’s a combo of hypnic turn into cluster headaches that awaken me at night. Still having severe headaches during the day at times but they are never the episode type of headache. I’m so sorry you had to go so long without a proper diagnosis. With your help, and being on this forum, I possibly self diagnosed myself in a few weeks. I’ll await for proper diagnosis but if I can prevent these with caffeine for now until I can get into the doctors recommended, then I’m forever thankful.

I am so so glad you will see Dr. Sacco and are seeing an MD affiliated with Duke university. I am not aware of their headache MDs or research, but hope you will get the support you need. And if you are taking lots of NSAIDS (ketorolac--I take the injectable version acutely to avoid ER; and Advil) you might ask your MD about ways to prevent gastric bleeding. It's not fun and can be serious. I have had no more gastric crises since adding Pantoprozole to my regimen (since I am a chronic user of Indomethacin and occassional Ketorolac or Motrin). My amazing Mayo MD (Dr. Mark Whealy) does not like long term use of Indomethacin but it's the only NSAID that works for me. I hope and pray hope is on the horizon for you!!

I am so so glad you will see Dr. Sacco and are seeing an MD affiliated with Duke university. I am not aware of their headache MDs or research, but hope you will get the support you need. And if you are taking lots of NSAIDS (ketorolac--I take the injectable version acutely to avoid ER; and Advil) you might ask your MD about ways to prevent gastric bleeding. It's not fun and can be serious. I have had no more gastric crises since adding Pantoprozole to my regimen (since I am a chronic user of Indomethacin and occassional Ketorolac or Motrin). My amazing Mayo MD (Dr. Mark Whealy) does not like long term use of Indomethacin but it's the only NSAID that works for me. I hope and pray hope is on the horizon for you!!

Not sure how to message you privately. I’m new to this. I’ll try. Are you still suffering? This happens almost nightly and the residual is so bad the next day. I haven’t been able to function properly for two weeks.

I see that this topic goes back several years. I have posted in other threads about migraines. I’m 76 and have had headaches since my mid 30s. They have changed over the years but imitrex has always helped.
I recently developed morning headaches that occur while sleeping. I think they are hypnic but I’ve been told by the neurology NP I’ve seen at Emory that they are rebound headaches from imitrex.
I will be seeing Dr. Charles Gordon in Charlotte in October. He is an internist who specializes in migraines and was recommended.
Like many of you, I’ve been through many meds and many opinions about causes and cures. Unless you experience headaches you don’t understand them. I was told that Dr. Gordon understands. 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

Thank you for such an immediate response and for being so supportive. I am waiting on 3 different scans to be scheduled by a new neurologist that is associated with Duke so far. I’ll contact the Dr. you recommend today! I’ll start to also keep note of when I get them. So far I notice it’s about 3 hours or so into sleep usually. I drank a cup of coffee last night before bed. I woke up with a horrendous headache BUT it never throbbed like the others and it didn’t turn into a full episode as I call them. I immediately took a Ketoralic. I was able to get through it and back to sleep. Woke up in a lot of pain and I’ll take Advil when it’s time and hope the Dr can see me soon! Thank you thank you thank you.

I see that this topic goes back several years. I have posted in other threads about migraines. I’m 76 and have had headaches since my mid 30s. They have changed over the years but imitrex has always helped.
I recently developed morning headaches that occur while sleeping. I think they are hypnic but I’ve been told by the neurology NP I’ve seen at Emory that they are rebound headaches from imitrex.
I will be seeing Dr. Charles Gordon in Charlotte in October. He is an internist who specializes in migraines and was recommended.
Like many of you, I’ve been through many meds and many opinions about causes and cures. Unless you experience headaches you don’t understand them. I was told that Dr. Gordon understands. 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻