Bruxism...

Posted by spott @spott, Oct 11, 2017

Help..Hubby grinds away most of the day....started after brain surgery repair to AVM...

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TMJ is such a terrible thing. Head pain kept me down for 2 years. No one believed the pain!!! Under control at this point. Learned the hard/expensive way that any dentist can claim to be a TMJ specialist without any specific qualifications. I finally did find one with the qualifications and the degrees to back him up. I now am on a soft diet and this pain is so much better. I clench/grind at night. As yes have found no solution for this as it is still due a bite that has been corrected as best can be done.
@spott Thankful your hubby is managing. Will follow this thread to see if an answer as to why hubby is grinding.
Blessings to you both.

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Is that dentist located in MN?

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@spott,

Thank you for taking the time to teach me and the community a bit more about the diagnoses you mentioned. I am also glad to hear that your husband is doing so well 19 years after his AVM. While I did not find anything directly referring to bruxism on Connect currently, there is a discussion on TMJ (temporomandibular joint) taking place that many members talk about many different symptoms. I recommend at least giving the discussion a look here:

- https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/i-clench-my-teeth-at-night-which-has-resulted-in-severe-tmj/

There is also a conversation that includes some discussion about AVM you may find value in joining. You can find that discussion here, https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/arteriovenous-malformation-avm-survivors-and-side-effects/.

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There heart of the issue IS NOT bruxism, that is just one of the symptoms.... ugh

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Furthermore, bruxism and TMJ are not the same!

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I have bruxism and TMJ. One aggravates the other in my case. I am in need of having the splint built back up again. I am a clicher by day and a grinder by night.

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Hello @veranopage, welcome to Connect. I see that you posted a similar message in the Chronic Pain & Depression & Anxiety groups. You may noticed I moved your message to this existing discussion titled Bruxism. I did so, so that members who may have experiences to share could do so in one location rather than in multiple group and that the members who discussed bruxism previously would see your message as well. There may be a few discussions here on Connect that you may want to look through and participate in as well, as they are more specifically focused on some of the issues you discussed:

- Anxiety, https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/anxiety-1/
- Scoliosis, https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/scoliosis-introduce-yourself/
- PTSD, https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/seroquel-for-anxiety-ptsd/

I would also like to invite @spott back to this discussion as they also talked about Bruxism and the challenges involved.

@veranopage, you mentioned quite a few issues for your friend, is Bruxism the most pressing issue for your friend at the moment?

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Hello everyone. The bruxing /grinding continues from Hubby, especially when he is "thinking". He is most times unaware of this. Honestly it is SO annoying...SO how i deal with it...I remove myself from the area..Sometimes i make him aware.
Dental visits have been non conclusive and we just cope.
Wishing you all the best for the Festive Season.

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Furthermore, bruxism and TMJ are not the same!

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Agreed!

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I am looking for assistance for a friend of mine. She has been suffering from several symptoms for the last 10+ years. She is 30 yrs old and has a slim build, about 5'4. She has anxiety and possibly PTSD, partly because of a past relationship. She has asthma, scoliosis and Reynaud's syndrome (phenomenon) . In addition to those she has one leg that is slightly shorter than the other by less than an inch. Also has teeth grinding issues, called bruxism and deals with constant jaw pain and migraine headaches. She is tense quite often, and when I say tense, I mean her whole body. She went to get a deep tissue massage and the massage therapist couldn't believe the knot that was on her upper back. She is on her 3rd mouth guard due to bruxism but this doesnt always help, in fact it rarely does. She always has trouble sleeping.
She is on the following drugs- atenolol
bupropion
Ambien CR (zolpidem)
Apri (desogestrel / ethinyl estradiol)
Luvox (fluvoxamine)

I truly want the best for her. With that being said, what can we do to start resolving this? She has seen many doctors but no one has yet to say what could be the issue. This all started back when she was in middle school. Bruxism may run in the family as well.

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Does your friend suffer from migraines?
If so, has she seen a migraine (neurology) specialist?
Also, with lump on her back, a movement disorder specialist (neurology).
I’ve been suffering for 40 years, after a swimming accident, diving into shallow water, TMJ disc dislocated without treatment and without recommended surgery, at 9 years old. What you described, I also have and many other symptoms and diagnoses. Please, continue to advocate for your friend. This is serious, as you know, and healthcare professionals lack the education on TMJ Disorders and the secondary and many symptoms/diagnoses that come from it. It’s truly heartbreaking to not be heard by our providers. Being told, “it’s all in your head” being laughed at, being dismissed, being led on as if you’re crazy and getting a referral for behavioral health, is cruel and lazy, but when the “experts” who are only practicing can’t keep it real, don’t know what is going on, that’s how they respond.
So, anyways, I think you’re outstanding for being an advocate for your friend. Seriously, thank you for caring for her. Those two specialists are now helping me and I’m finally on the right path! It takes time with imaging and all that, but praise God it is happening!

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I went to a Maxillofacial dentist for my TMJ woes. The mouthguard is so much better than what the dentist makes. I also do the basic TMJ exercises, also massage bones behind my ears and the lower ossipital bone area of my skull. I also follow Dr Jo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrz25x3qnTY

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