Breast Cancer Action Site: I Now Am Finally Validated

Posted by colely @colely, Mar 22 10:30am

bcaction.org. From the Executive Director: Pink Ribbon Culture, Gaslighting, and the Breast Cancer Epidemic-Breast Cancer Action. https://www.bcaction.org/from-the-executive-director-pink-ribbon-culture-gaslighting-and-the-breast-cancer-epidemic/ She talks about the major treatments, which are still so toxic after 30 years, the rise in breast cancer, the environmental toxins as a major cause, that are not being acknowledged, and the toxic positivity and gaslighting, especially during the October Breast Cancer Awareness Month.

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I understand both sides of this discussion. People are going through different situations both medically and emotionally. I have to stay positive at work as I work with patients. It isn't their business or their problem what I'm going through. I chose to stay positive for myself and for those around me that care about me. Having said that I finally fell apart last week, about four months after they first found the lump. I have BACC which is very rare but has a good prognosis. I had a lumpectomy and revision. There was no follow-up treatment planned. That was until two weeks ago when the tumor board met again. One of the radiation oncologists did a deep dive into what little research there is for my cancer. He believes that radiation treatment would be of benefit. So I did some reading on my own. Radiation does increase the survival rate. Then I flipped out. I have a survival rate. I really do have cancer. I should probably have radiation. Talked to the nurse navigator and the radiation oncologist (by phone) which helped a little. Today I am feeling better. So there is room for all sorts of emotions. I choose optimism, most of the time. It helps me and my loved ones. But, obviously, everyone has a right to their own feelings.

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First, I am totally with your "vent" sarahmh! Many thanks for sharing, your thoughts are right on point.
Yes, rubyslippers - the doctors are locked into "insurance payouts" (prior authorization for this and that) that drive any and all preventative care we "should" be receiving to catch a reoccurrence early.
Big pharma drives this country in so many ways. Many folks think their way is the "only" way.
Thank you greatly, colely, for posting the link to the Breast Cancer Action. Beyond eye opening and, in my humble opinion, these truths are so eloquently written by Karuna Jaggar, Executive Director.
I am completely on board.
Lastly, jmab - yes, you have it totally right. Heart disease kills more American women than all the cancers combined (the #1 killer of women in this country). We (I also have heart disease) have just a "day" in February - on which we are all suppose to wear "red" or a red pin like a "dress" to bring awareness to this fact. And besides the WISE Study (Women's Ischemia Syndrome Evaluation) beginning in 1996-2000 (still continuing research) focusing only on women (all previous studies were on men) who present so much differently then men with heart disease...we women are shortchanged again.
It is an understatement to say - we have a long way to go in terms of women's health issue.
But we all knew this a long time ago.
Blessings to all.

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I think, like other cancers, we're waiting for the cure. The truth is that treatments are extending survival and many are less toxic than those used even 20 years ago. I was diagnosed de Novo with lobular carcinoma at stage 4. Bone mets only, so I had DMX and radiation therapy. I'm on my first line letrozole and Kisqali for 3 years. But I know others with stage 4 that have been on numerous treatments. The truth is that at this stage, we await new treatments targeting different mutations each year. And there are new treatments approved each year. It buys time. It also helps us understand that everyone's breast cancer is different, even if under the umbrella of lobular carcinoma. So no evidence of active disease is as good as it gets in stage 4. Lobular is hard to pick up on scans, but ctDNA is proving to be an alternate way to measure disease progression. Everyone diagnosed with cancer wonders, why me? I'm sure environmental factors play a role in increased incidence. But with everything we come in contact with deregulated, we can't expect improvements there. The UK won't import our chlorinated chickens. If you want to be angry, be angry with a system that values profit over lives. Do you know why UK doesn't want their people exposed to our carcinogens? Because with socialized medicine there is an incentive to keep people healthy since it costs money to treat illness. Here, illness is big business.

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@jmh22 yes, I agree. It's all about corporate greed.

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@destinyhealthcare I'm in Healthcare as well. On occasions I work with breast cancer patients. Not that I tell them what is going on with me but my experiences have definitely helped me provide even better care.

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I was 37 when Charlotte Haley introduced the first peach-colored ribbon in 1991 for breast cancer awareness. It seemed a good way to show support for fellow women dealing with breast cancer.
As everything becomes monetized and used for promotional purposes, it was later adopted and changed to the iconic pink by Estée Lauder and Self magazine in 1992. And now, before I use info from a BC support site, I spend time reading who benefits from this “support” site as some are money making sites or headed by lawyers looking to increase clients.
Our medical system has been based on detecting and treating disease, and with the insurance company funding prevention has had no place. I’m pretty sure if you are a cash only patient, and the doctor is not longer limited by the insurance contract patients sign, we would receive more preventative care. With enormously expensive medical equipment (scans, precision radiation, robotic supports) doctors tend to get locked into large medical systems that are aligned with care driven by insurance reimbursements.

Maybe the near future will have insurance companies recognizing the monetary benefit of preventative care. But what also comes with that is following minimizing options, as some socialized medicine systems do.
Would I have been told to wait and see if I was diagnosed today with the DCIS found in 2022? Probably. Would I be happy with hormone therapy only and stress laden 6 month scans for years? No, actually. I’m glad I had surgery. Surgery which may no longer be a funded option in the near future.

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@triciaot I stopped supporting Susan Komen Foundation years ago when I found out they were giving money donated for breast cancer research to Planned Parenthood and abortion foundations.!!!!!! What right did they have to do that? What else did they do with it, rather than have it go for BC research like the people donating it thought it did.

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@triciaot I stopped supporting Susan Komen Foundation years ago when I found out they were giving money donated for breast cancer research to Planned Parenthood and abortion foundations.!!!!!! What right did they have to do that? What else did they do with it, rather than have it go for BC research like the people donating it thought it did.

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@katie816 I give to ACS because, at least from their website information, it appears that my money is going toward various cancer issues. I've lost three friends to three different types of cancers so I prefer to send my money to where it will support a variety of research.

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This is so good! Thank you so much for posting this. I have felt exactly the same way, and I'm thrilled to see this acknowledged on a public platform. Corporations absolutely exploit breast cancer "awareness" to make money. People who have no experience with breast cancer expect you to "fight" and "be positive" through some of the worst physical and emotional difficulties of your life. I find it disgusting that people believe if you just "fight" hard enough, you can "beat" breast cancer. To me, the implication is that those who don't survive just "gave in" or didn't try hard enough. I am not brave, I am not a warrior--I had no choice! I was diagnosed and I went through treatment. Heaven forbid if we dare "complain" about the horrible aching after a chemo treatment and Neulasta injection, if we are emotionally affected by losing our hair, if we're too exhausted to make dinner (you just sat in a chair all day getting your infusion, it's not like you ran a marathon). I will never forget this--I was talking to a friend after church, and she asked how I was feeling. I replied simply and truthfully, "tired." And a man who was with us told me, "Oh, but you have to stay positive!" My dear friend snapped back at him in my defense, and told him I'm the most positive person she knows; but that's not the point! I was tired, and positivity has nothing to do with that. Another good one: I had surgery, chemo, then 33 radiation treatments (which left me exhausted and my skin like blackened chicken). Shortly after, on a long walk with my now-ex-husband, I fell behind. He was irritated that I was slowing down, and I explained I still experienced pretty wicked fatigue from my treatment. He said, "Oh, from the cancer you don't even have anymore?" as if my fatigue should have disappeared the day I finished treatment. And then there's the unseen effects! My surgical scars have faded, my hair has grown back, my burnt skin has healed, but now I get Zoladex shots to suppress my ovaries and take an AI, so I have no estrogen left. And that causes fatigue, and brain fog, and makes it hard to lose weight, and I feel like I'm 110 years old when I'm 50. I've known a few women who were diagnosed after I'd been through all this, and I have told each of them that they are allowed to be upset, they are allowed to admit to their pain. They do not have to plaster on a fake smile, at least not with me. I think it's essential we have space to be authentic. No, it won't do any good to perpetually wallow in self-pity, but I have never once encountered a woman who did that!
Anyway, oops, I didn't mean to turn that into my own therapy session! I really just came to say I loved the article!

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@sarahmh
I agree with you in every way!!!!💕

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Interesting, this just popped up:
TERM OF THE WEEK
Commercial determinants of health

The world’s population has been increasingly exposed to cancer risk factors like tobacco, air pollution, alcohol and processed foods over the past 30 years, largely as a result of increasing commercial activity. “Transnational corporations that manufacture and market health-harming products are a primary vector for the global increase in mortality,” writes the University of California, San Francisco’s Consortium of the Center to End Corporate Harm. (The New England Journal of Medicine)
https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMms2507028
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@jmh22 yes, I agree. It's all about corporate greed.

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@jmab I do not believe that there will EVER be cures for cancers. TOO MANY drug companies and health care corporations would go out of business.

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Thanks for sharing this. My daughter has a rare repetitive motion injury that required 20 surgeries and procedures over a 10 year period. The result of these surgeries let to a very rare pain syndrome. Most medical professionals don’t know what it is and they are tragically unhelpful. No one has 5K runs or awareness months or even acknowledges this exists. So when I was diagnosed with breast cancer the ridiculous hyper focused pink ribbon response angered me. The doctor’s office gave me gifts sponsored by Pink Ribbon Good. Thing that would be great for anyone who is struggling with paying for food and medical care. But things I don’t need. My daughter has lost the ability to have a life and no one does a single thing to raise awareness. My work forced me to retire early because I cared for a disabled adult and only worked 60 hours a week. But anyone who had anything remotely related to cancer was treated like royalty. By the time I was diagnosed a few years after early retirement I was already disturbed by the Pink Ribbon extreme. And afterwards I wanted nothing to do with it.
Friends and family can’t understand how I could be so stoic. But I have seen extreme and endless suffering. I never thought dying was the worst thing that could happen to me.

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