Anyone read " How To Starve Cancer" yet ?

Posted by pjsfla @pjsfla, May 23 2:31pm

Anyone read " How To Starve Cancer" yet ? Author is Jane McLelland . It is a Intl Bestseller , so I'll give it a try . I have been organic and whole foods , overall all my life , but need to do even better now w MBC , and drug side effects again. Increasing B12 , and Vit D ,and calc , and Turkey Tail mushrooms , and and and and ………..

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pjsfla, haven't read it yet. Have you researched annatto tocotrienol for breast cancer in addition to other cancers too?

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Good morning!

In reading your post regarding the book "How To Starve Cancer", yes I have read the book in its entirety. It was wonderful reading about Jane's journey with healing her cancer, but found the book to be very, very scientific. She is extremely informative regarding blocking the "cancer T-Cells" and all pathways that drive tumors, but very scientific in her explanations. She explains what "off label drugs" work for you and provides a diagram of supplements, herbs, etc. to take. I did incorporate other supplements that I would not have known to take if it weren't for reading her book. I have what is considered Stage 4 Metastatic Breast Cancer Er/Pr+ and HER2-. My journey had me in both the conventional world and integrative world.

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Good read, but I took it a better step thru Dr McDougall who speaks of the dangers of oils in our lives. I eat WFPLNO and feel better than I have in many years. )whole food plant based no oil) I have zero processed foods, and zero oils, have lost 55 pounds in my first year, my skin is clear, I have tons of energy, and walk 2 miles every day. Best years of my life after the darkest years of my life. I take zero drugs and zero vitamins, herbs, etc other than curcumin.

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@onamission

pjsfla, haven't read it yet. Have you researched annatto tocotrienol for breast cancer in addition to other cancers too?

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Hello , and I LOVE your handle , aren't we all , LOL ? Wow. That is a wonderful and helpful suggestion of something I love already . Fav food is pumpkin , fave drink is turmeric milk ..I will def increase now and thank you for that , and wonder if you increased by food/drinks or do a supplement ? I appreciate your help so much . Best , PJ

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@lisapion77

Good morning!

In reading your post regarding the book "How To Starve Cancer", yes I have read the book in its entirety. It was wonderful reading about Jane's journey with healing her cancer, but found the book to be very, very scientific. She is extremely informative regarding blocking the "cancer T-Cells" and all pathways that drive tumors, but very scientific in her explanations. She explains what "off label drugs" work for you and provides a diagram of supplements, herbs, etc. to take. I did incorporate other supplements that I would not have known to take if it weren't for reading her book. I have what is considered Stage 4 Metastatic Breast Cancer Er/Pr+ and HER2-. My journey had me in both the conventional world and integrative world.

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Good Morning ! TY so much for your reply . I have lived in the integrative world , super healthy for the 1st 65 yrs , and now trying my best to find help or guidance or useful treatments in the medical conventional world of Stage 4 MBC since Jan , although it surfaced in Oct , and they missed it with 6 biopsies described as "Benign" …
I am so glad to know that you found some useful info , and appreciate you encouraging me to slug through the science. Not my 1st love, and I do google lots of terms , LOL , but if I am to get any help , worth it ! Very best to you , PJ

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@jeaniebean

Good read, but I took it a better step thru Dr McDougall who speaks of the dangers of oils in our lives. I eat WFPLNO and feel better than I have in many years. )whole food plant based no oil) I have zero processed foods, and zero oils, have lost 55 pounds in my first year, my skin is clear, I have tons of energy, and walk 2 miles every day. Best years of my life after the darkest years of my life. I take zero drugs and zero vitamins, herbs, etc other than curcumin.

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Hello Jeaniebean,
TY for your post .I am new to the no oils concept and will read up . Anything you can share on that subject , I'm all ears . I am constantly pushed to take so many supplements I could just explode : Calc bec AI depleting my bones , D bec there's no sun in Portland, OR , E , B12 . bone shots , etc etc etc / Had a pain med order held up at Kaiser Pharmacy bec he also ordered a liquid Vit D , and they refused to mail that .. after I paid online and waited 4 days !!! How dumb. Also had same dr order a "calcium supplement" Phylostra – that is for end stage renal failure –Thank God I dont have that , just MBC and tons of stress, from stupid moves like that from idiot #@* drs. So , eating healthy is for me , and I already did /do but want to do more now. Best regards, PJ

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@pjsfla

Hello Jeaniebean,
TY for your post .I am new to the no oils concept and will read up . Anything you can share on that subject , I'm all ears . I am constantly pushed to take so many supplements I could just explode : Calc bec AI depleting my bones , D bec there's no sun in Portland, OR , E , B12 . bone shots , etc etc etc / Had a pain med order held up at Kaiser Pharmacy bec he also ordered a liquid Vit D , and they refused to mail that .. after I paid online and waited 4 days !!! How dumb. Also had same dr order a "calcium supplement" Phylostra – that is for end stage renal failure –Thank God I dont have that , just MBC and tons of stress, from stupid moves like that from idiot #@* drs. So , eating healthy is for me , and I already did /do but want to do more now. Best regards, PJ

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pjsfla remember vitamin D like vitamin B1 needs magnesium to make it bioactive, It's also needed to balance calcium. You can check out boron search on "Nothing boring about boron" however it also balances hormones and that may need direction from your doctor. Annatto tocotrienol is also a bone builder and more. See link.
https://www.dougcookrd.com/annatto/

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@pjsfla

Hello Jeaniebean,
TY for your post .I am new to the no oils concept and will read up . Anything you can share on that subject , I'm all ears . I am constantly pushed to take so many supplements I could just explode : Calc bec AI depleting my bones , D bec there's no sun in Portland, OR , E , B12 . bone shots , etc etc etc / Had a pain med order held up at Kaiser Pharmacy bec he also ordered a liquid Vit D , and they refused to mail that .. after I paid online and waited 4 days !!! How dumb. Also had same dr order a "calcium supplement" Phylostra – that is for end stage renal failure –Thank God I dont have that , just MBC and tons of stress, from stupid moves like that from idiot #@* drs. So , eating healthy is for me , and I already did /do but want to do more now. Best regards, PJ

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Hit the library for "The Starch Solution" by Dr McDougal. He covers all of this. I now take no Vitamin D or Calcium, no supplements at all. They are all processed and have side effects. I eat an orange every day for C, broccoli and other veggies for D, and get my calcium thru my veggies. When you do it every week, your body gets all it needs. I have a box of supplements sitting in my bathroom cupboard now. I look at them and shake my head. What was I thinking???? Total money pit. So glad I am off everything. Join a McDougal facebook page. many good tips and explanations there!

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@onamission

pjsfla, haven't read it yet. Have you researched annatto tocotrienol for breast cancer in addition to other cancers too?

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Hi Onamission!

Can you explain to me the benefits of Annatto Tocotrienol for breast cancer? That is one supplement that I am not familiar with.

Thank you!

Lisa

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@jeaniebean

Good read, but I took it a better step thru Dr McDougall who speaks of the dangers of oils in our lives. I eat WFPLNO and feel better than I have in many years. )whole food plant based no oil) I have zero processed foods, and zero oils, have lost 55 pounds in my first year, my skin is clear, I have tons of energy, and walk 2 miles every day. Best years of my life after the darkest years of my life. I take zero drugs and zero vitamins, herbs, etc other than curcumin.

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Hi Jennie
Like your approach to cancer treatment / no supplements and drug ?
I am taking Tamoxifen out
of fear of reoccurrence .
Talking about diet and no oil at all??
I am pretty much on veggie diet, but not all raw, some fish and chicken, nuts and fruits.
Some oil needs for join function ? Isn’t ?
But if you fine/ your body is adjusting itself!
I am toward holistic approach !
Still, so many different tales and opinions.
Interesting
Thank you

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@lisapion77

Hi Onamission!

Can you explain to me the benefits of Annatto Tocotrienol for breast cancer? That is one supplement that I am not familiar with.

Thank you!

Lisa

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Lisa, Annatto Tocotrienol distinguishes itself from tocotrienol found in other sources like red palm oil or rice by being virtually free of tocopherols – vitamin E also known as alpha tocopherol. Tocotrienol competes with tocopherol for absorption. Alpha-tocopherol administration has also been found to decrease the gamma-tocotrienol concentration in the adipose tissue and skin, inhibiting both delta and gamma tocotrienol tissue uptake. The importance of taking advantage of annatto tocotrienol begins with it's unhindered absorption in breast tissues by alpha-tocopherol. Since annatto tocotrienol is fat soluble it should be taken with a meal to enhance absorption. The first link expands on adipose tissue mentioned earlier. The others a little more on annatto tocotrienol.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7460846/#:~:text=Breast%20lobules%20and%20ducts%20are,the%20breast%20microenvironment%20%5B3%5D.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20188744/#:~:text=2%2Fneu%20expression-,Gamma%2D%20and%20delta%2Dtocotrienols%20exert%20a%20more%20potent%20anticancer%20effect,Life%20Sci.
https://www.todaysgeriatricmedicine.com/archive/SO19p24.shtml

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@onamission

Lisa, Annatto Tocotrienol distinguishes itself from tocotrienol found in other sources like red palm oil or rice by being virtually free of tocopherols – vitamin E also known as alpha tocopherol. Tocotrienol competes with tocopherol for absorption. Alpha-tocopherol administration has also been found to decrease the gamma-tocotrienol concentration in the adipose tissue and skin, inhibiting both delta and gamma tocotrienol tissue uptake. The importance of taking advantage of annatto tocotrienol begins with it's unhindered absorption in breast tissues by alpha-tocopherol. Since annatto tocotrienol is fat soluble it should be taken with a meal to enhance absorption. The first link expands on adipose tissue mentioned earlier. The others a little more on annatto tocotrienol.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7460846/#:~:text=Breast%20lobules%20and%20ducts%20are,the%20breast%20microenvironment%20%5B3%5D.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20188744/#:~:text=2%2Fneu%20expression-,Gamma%2D%20and%20delta%2Dtocotrienols%20exert%20a%20more%20potent%20anticancer%20effect,Life%20Sci.
https://www.todaysgeriatricmedicine.com/archive/SO19p24.shtml

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Thank you so much for explaining and sharing your information on this! I am definitely going to look into this.

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