Anyone have a small pancreatic IPMN cyst that turned out to be cancer?

Posted by Zebra @californiazebra, Oct 24, 2023

Have CT scans every 6 months to monitor both recurrent breast cancer and neuroendocrine lung cancer. CT showed 7 mm cyst that looks like side branch IPMN. NETs can present as cysts. If you had pancreatic cysts, what tests did you have to monitor and/or diagnose cancer? BRCA2 mutation also puts me at higher risk for pancreatic cancer so I don’t even want to have cysts. For now we’ll do an MRI. Thanks.

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@gjbrx66

I have an anechoic lesion on the pancreas body suspected to be an IPMN-side branch that has been stable in characteristics for several years. However, I have increasingly been bothered by abdominal pain and back pain with intolerance to fat. I was seen at Mayo a year ago and after an MRI was told my cyst looked benign. My local gastroenterologist has said that my EUS doesn’t indicate that the cyst could be the source of the pain. My weight has dropped about a pound a year since 2017 and I recently lost 3 lbs. this morning my fasting blood sugar was 127- usually below 100. Has anyone else had a very small cysts become malignant? I am trying to set up F//U with Mayo now.

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My paternal uncle died at age 75 from pancreatic cancer( I don’t have details). I am 75. I am not aware of any familial mutations, but I will look into testing. I have ordered the Ca 19-9 personally and
the most recent was normal. Another person suggested doing the Invitae Germline DNA which I think is a liquid DNA and I plan to do this myself if Dr’s don’t order. I was at Mayo a year ago and an MRCP was done. I was advised it had no irregular features and continued to be small and that they didn’t consider it to be potentially malignant. My gastroenterologist has ordered an MRCP, HgA1C, CA19-9 and the usual panel which will be done this week. My stomach has been ruled out as the etiology of my symptoms. I am a retired dietitian and have been limiting my fat for 9 months and have begun using some enzymes in August. My symptoms have continued to increase anyway with increasing back pain. I will have to continue to be proactive considering the discrepancy between my physical symptoms and clinical presentation. I apologize if this is too much information. Early detection is so important but a fleeting option it seems. Sending strength, determination, and healing your way as you manage your PDAC🙏. If you are willing to say, are you a patient at Mayo? I saw Dr. Levy at Mayo who unfortunately died several months after I was there in 10/22.

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Thank you for your extensive review of the literature regarding IPMN’s. My clinical findings are at odds with my physical symptoms. My anechoic cysts was 8 X6 mm and PD 2.5 mm-by EUS in August with no remarkable features-consistent with previous EUS’s. I had an MRCP done at Mayo 10/22 that was normal and felt to be non-malignant( Dr. Levy). I will precede with your suggestions for DNA and mutation testing. My paternal uncle died of pancreatic cancer(unknown details). I am 75. Do you have a recommendation for a specific liquid biopsy. I’ve read about the Invitae Germline. I have run the Ca19-9 on myself and the two were both WNL. I am a dietitian by training and have limited my fat for the last 8 months and started using some enzymes. I now understand why an early PC-DX is so difficult. Thank you again-wishing you strength and healing as you deal with your DX.🙏

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I have tried several times to reply to you. I am so appreciative of your extensive review of the recent medical literature regarding IPMN’s. My clinical data does not support my physical symptoms. My lesion is 8X6 mm. with the pancreatic duct at 2.5 mm. My paternal uncle died at 75 from PC( I have no details) I am 75.No known mutations. I have personally done 2 CA19-9- both normal. I will see if I can get the test you mentioned ordered. My Dr has ordered an MRCP and some general blood work and CA19-9. I was seen at Mayo a year ago and the MRCP that was done showed a small cyst on the tail?, none on the body, and was told it appeared benign. My abdominal pain, back pain, (R) shoulder pain all are related to fat intake. I’ll see what these test show. Thank you again.

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@gjbrx66

I have tried several times to reply to you. I am so appreciative of your extensive review of the recent medical literature regarding IPMN’s. My clinical data does not support my physical symptoms. My lesion is 8X6 mm. with the pancreatic duct at 2.5 mm. My paternal uncle died at 75 from PC( I have no details) I am 75.No known mutations. I have personally done 2 CA19-9- both normal. I will see if I can get the test you mentioned ordered. My Dr has ordered an MRCP and some general blood work and CA19-9. I was seen at Mayo a year ago and the MRCP that was done showed a small cyst on the tail?, none on the body, and was told it appeared benign. My abdominal pain, back pain, (R) shoulder pain all are related to fat intake. I’ll see what these test show. Thank you again.

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Hi @gjbrx66 , were you referencing a reply to me? If so, sorry for the delayed reply, but you're very welcome. 🙂

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Anyway, with the repeated caveat that I'm not a medical professional (or even a good amateur) of any sort...

The germline test I had was from Invitae, so their report is the only one I know by name. Knowledge of my ATM mutation from that test helped identify drugs I would likely have a better response to (platinum agents and ATR inhibitors); it also helped identify the same mutation in my dad (not quite as relevant to his cancer) and in my brother (now getting much closer monitoring of his pancreatic cysts).

The somatic test I had was the Guardant 360, which basically just confirmed that I had an ATM mutation, but couldn't confirm somatic or germline origin (which we already knew from Invitae). But Guardant's report did have a helpful summary of relevant drugs and clinical trials.

It has been pointed out here (thanks to @stageivsurvivor ) that some people do not produce CA19-9 (or shed it from their tumors), so normal levels are not a guarantee of being tumor-free, ("Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence!") but it is a good sign.

When I had rising CA19-9 levels and MRI evidence of the recurrent tumor, 4 snippets of tissue from an EUS biopsy still came back with a false negative that delayed my resumption of treatment, so EUS and biopsy are not 100% definitive answers either.

Three symptoms I experienced in my first bout with PC were coincidental. A good portion of my weight loss was from exercise and diet -- so much that it masked the portion of my weight loss that came from the PC. Second was back pain while walking/jogging, but it came from all the extra time with bad posture at my computer researching my recent PC diagnosis. It was fixed with massage, PT, and a better chair. Third was the extra neuropathy in my left foot after 6 months of Folfirinox and a Whipple procedure. Bad posture at the computer chair again had damaged the left peroneal nerve just below my knee; better attention to sitting position during extra hours on the computer fixed that too.

...So, I'm sorry I can't think of much useful to add regarding your symptoms and situation, other than I hope you remain vigilant; I hope your symptoms are coincidental and not related to any kind of cancer.

Wishing you the best, and hoping you'll share anything you learn with us here.

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