Afib and neuropathy

Posted by davidjp @davidjp, Oct 11, 2022

Developed Afib several years ago, and it seems, looking back, that I developed neuropathy in my feet about the same time. Talking with a friend last week who has just been determined to have Afib, and he has also developed neuropathy in his feet. I wonder just how many folks have both, and if the Afib is corrected, the neuropathy will diminish.

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Hi David, I started developing peripheral neuropathy 9 years ago in my feet and lower legs, and also more recently in my hands [but to a much lesser extent]. I increasingly experience Afib, which has come along at the same time as my peripheral neuropathy, and it has now gotten to the point when I cannot exert myself [e.g. household chores, walking up stairs] without it causing me to be weak and uncomfortable. I have other symptoms that have developed over this period, but they may or may not be related to my neuropathy.

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@gavinholley

Hi David, I started developing peripheral neuropathy 9 years ago in my feet and lower legs, and also more recently in my hands [but to a much lesser extent]. I increasingly experience Afib, which has come along at the same time as my peripheral neuropathy, and it has now gotten to the point when I cannot exert myself [e.g. household chores, walking up stairs] without it causing me to be weak and uncomfortable. I have other symptoms that have developed over this period, but they may or may not be related to my neuropathy.

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Welcome @gavinholley, It can be difficult to manage daily chores around the house when you are dealing with multiple conditions. If you don't mind my asking, which symptoms bother you the most?

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But A. Fib is a cardiac conduction problem emanating from the atria while PN is a CNS deficit in an entirely different body system. The two just don’t meet I believe. I searched and found mother to support the premise.

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@gavinholley

Hi David, I started developing peripheral neuropathy 9 years ago in my feet and lower legs, and also more recently in my hands [but to a much lesser extent]. I increasingly experience Afib, which has come along at the same time as my peripheral neuropathy, and it has now gotten to the point when I cannot exert myself [e.g. household chores, walking up stairs] without it causing me to be weak and uncomfortable. I have other symptoms that have developed over this period, but they may or may not be related to my neuropathy.

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Have you had your b6 blood level checked? Taking supplements for several months with vitamin b6 even in relatively lower dosage such as 10-20mg has been shown to cause sensory or motor PN as well as autonomic symptons such as irregular heartbeat, blood pressure drops, dizziness etc. B6 is a neurotoxin that can affect motor, sensory, or autonomic nerve fibers.

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@johnbishop

Welcome @gavinholley, It can be difficult to manage daily chores around the house when you are dealing with multiple conditions. If you don't mind my asking, which symptoms bother you the most?

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Hi John. I find physical exhaustion the hardest.

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@jenatsky

But A. Fib is a cardiac conduction problem emanating from the atria while PN is a CNS deficit in an entirely different body system. The two just don’t meet I believe. I searched and found mother to support the premise.

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Could well be the case, but the PN is a symptom and not the root cause. I think you've made the assumption that the cause of the PN can't cause other systems issues? There's reserach showing toxicity can affect the CNS and other systems - including the heart. My neurologist doesn't know what's causing my PN. I'm a complicated case, also being an epileptic [hereditary] and having suffered dozens of significant concussions during my life.

The latest is that they are (i) going back to screen the very high levels of protein found in my CSF four years ago, (ii) undertake a further [comparative MRI], and (iii) heart tests.

Let's see if they can find some further clues...

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@bb0753

Have you had your b6 blood level checked? Taking supplements for several months with vitamin b6 even in relatively lower dosage such as 10-20mg has been shown to cause sensory or motor PN as well as autonomic symptons such as irregular heartbeat, blood pressure drops, dizziness etc. B6 is a neurotoxin that can affect motor, sensory, or autonomic nerve fibers.

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Blood levels thoroughly checked and all ok except I have to take high dose vitamin D from time to time as my levels can drop significantly.

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@gavinholley

Could well be the case, but the PN is a symptom and not the root cause. I think you've made the assumption that the cause of the PN can't cause other systems issues? There's reserach showing toxicity can affect the CNS and other systems - including the heart. My neurologist doesn't know what's causing my PN. I'm a complicated case, also being an epileptic [hereditary] and having suffered dozens of significant concussions during my life.

The latest is that they are (i) going back to screen the very high levels of protein found in my CSF four years ago, (ii) undertake a further [comparative MRI], and (iii) heart tests.

Let's see if they can find some further clues...

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Sorry you’ve got disease process upon disease process and it’s hard to suss out which is which. I only had one head injury at 22, family history of epilepsy but I didn’t get it. Had another fall in an earthquake in 1988 that injured my back. The accumulated injuries has led to severe spinal OA, osteoporosis, PN and chronic pain. Luckily I’ve found my sweet spot between meds, diet and exercise I’m at a manageable pain level. I just finished PT for the 4th time and will return to it when something else kicks in. I’m a firm believer in PT helping me to fix myself.

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