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Chronic Pain members - Welcome, please introduce yourself

Posted by Kelsey Mohring @kelseydm, Apr 27, 2016

Welcome to the new Chronic Pain group.

I’m Kelsey and I’m the moderator of the group. I look forwarding to welcoming you and introducing you to other members. Feel free to browse the topics or start a new one.

Why not take a minute and introduce yourself.

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Chronic Pain Support Group.

Faithwalker007 (Renee) | @faithwalker007 | Oct 15, 2020
In reply to @lioness "@faithwalker007 Glad I don't I have heard of that before Addiction for those that are is..." + (show)
@lioness

@faithwalker007 Glad I don't I have heard of that before Addiction for those that are is so hard to overcome if they do

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Oh it can be overcome but it has been studied. You can see the result of what I’m talking about in the reservations. Alcoholism, liver failure, gambling, nicotine addiction, and kidney function failure.
However when you remove the person from the environment and learned influence, you will find behavior markers which are assumed to be genetic are remarkably reduced. Yes you’ll find the genetic predisposition to pursue life long and changing addictive activities but without the reinforcement of learned behavior, it’s harder to form the addiction.
It didn’t mean they won’t. The addictive personality is always lying in wait— like a sleeping giant.

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lioness | @lioness | Oct 15, 2020
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@faithwalker007

Oh it can be overcome but it has been studied. You can see the result of what I’m talking about in the reservations. Alcoholism, liver failure, gambling, nicotine addiction, and kidney function failure.
However when you remove the person from the environment and learned influence, you will find behavior markers which are assumed to be genetic are remarkably reduced. Yes you’ll find the genetic predisposition to pursue life long and changing addictive activities but without the reinforcement of learned behavior, it’s harder to form the addiction.
It didn’t mean they won’t. The addictive personality is always lying in wait— like a sleeping giant.

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@faithwalker007 You are right For those that don't have an addictive personality that can change anytime with increased pain .That's what I'm having today and my Tramadol isn't even taking the edge of .

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ellens | @ellens | Oct 15, 2020
In reply to @sunnyflower "Hi Renee, my understanding about Tramadol was that it is an opiate product with an epinephrine..." + (show)
@sunnyflower

Hi Renee, my understanding about Tramadol was that it is an opiate product with an epinephrine product added to it thinking that would prevent the opiate euphoria. I remember always clenching my teeth and having insomnia when I took it and it really wasn't strong enough for my type of pain. I don't know if my understanding is correct but I never liked the drug anyway. Take care and again thanks for your good information! Many blessings, and warmest wishes, Sunny flower

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I was given Tramadol once years ago when I tripped over the dog, went airborne, and cracked a rib. So I took the Tramadol and was underwhelmed. Later I read that it could cause seizures so I tossed it out (opened the bottle and scattered the pills among the garbage).

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Colleen Young, Connect Director | @colleenyoung | Oct 15, 2020
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@wheelerma

How do I read all the notices I get? They seem to be the same. Thank you.

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Hi @wheelerma, the email notifications can be overwhelming. You can choose instead to receive a daily digest, which is just one email a day with a summary of the activity in the group you follow.

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Faithwalker007 (Renee) | @faithwalker007 | Oct 15, 2020
In reply to @lioness "@faithwalker007 You are right For those that don't have an addictive personality that can change anytime..." + (show)
@lioness

@faithwalker007 You are right For those that don't have an addictive personality that can change anytime with increased pain .That's what I'm having today and my Tramadol isn't even taking the edge of .

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I’m so sorry. Usually if you are taking meds for a purpose, dependence is the last thing your body and mind develop. Your body—pain receptors—are fulfilling the purpose for which they were designed—survival.
If you take opioids and you are not in pain or at doses which are not required to control the pain, your pain receptors are not being used to fight the pain at hand. They are being flooded with unused drug.
What happens when this occurs? Euphoria. Relaxation. Peace.
These side effects don’t appear “bad” to those seeking pain relief. But when coupled with tremors, fatigue, constipation, gum inflammation, and dependence.
However, when treating severe pain with opioids, euphoria should not occur. That is your dosage gauge. If it occurs, lower the dose. Increase the dosage if the pain is greater than an 7 or 8/10 all day, watch for euphoria though and do not increase too much.
Euphoria will send you down the road toward dependence faster than any other side effect of the class.

They should be used only as a last resort and then only with caution, at the lowest possible dosage, and absolutely as directed under strict guidance and control of a pain specialist.

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Faithwalker007 (Renee) | @faithwalker007 | Oct 15, 2020
In reply to @ellens "I was given Tramadol once years ago when I tripped over the dog, went airborne, and..." + (show)
@ellens

I was given Tramadol once years ago when I tripped over the dog, went airborne, and cracked a rib. So I took the Tramadol and was underwhelmed. Later I read that it could cause seizures so I tossed it out (opened the bottle and scattered the pills among the garbage).

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Tramadol is not a high potent pain reliever so I can see that happening.

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Donald | @donfeld | Oct 15, 2020
In reply to @faithwalker007 "I’m so sorry. Usually if you are taking meds for a purpose, dependence is the last..." + (show)
@faithwalker007

I’m so sorry. Usually if you are taking meds for a purpose, dependence is the last thing your body and mind develop. Your body—pain receptors—are fulfilling the purpose for which they were designed—survival.
If you take opioids and you are not in pain or at doses which are not required to control the pain, your pain receptors are not being used to fight the pain at hand. They are being flooded with unused drug.
What happens when this occurs? Euphoria. Relaxation. Peace.
These side effects don’t appear “bad” to those seeking pain relief. But when coupled with tremors, fatigue, constipation, gum inflammation, and dependence.
However, when treating severe pain with opioids, euphoria should not occur. That is your dosage gauge. If it occurs, lower the dose. Increase the dosage if the pain is greater than an 7 or 8/10 all day, watch for euphoria though and do not increase too much.
Euphoria will send you down the road toward dependence faster than any other side effect of the class.

They should be used only as a last resort and then only with caution, at the lowest possible dosage, and absolutely as directed under strict guidance and control of a pain specialist.

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My thoughts when it out of the box treatment that cost $68 after my insurance, I think these large medical groups are getting a peace. He never told me it came from pharmacy that is not mine which bring a red flag. My pain doctor said he has never hear of this kind of treatment cream and not to wast my money.
He then gave me a great injection and has calmed my back down.
Thanks for your thoughts.

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lioness | @lioness | Oct 15, 2020
In reply to @faithwalker007 "I’m so sorry. Usually if you are taking meds for a purpose, dependence is the last..." + (show)
@faithwalker007

I’m so sorry. Usually if you are taking meds for a purpose, dependence is the last thing your body and mind develop. Your body—pain receptors—are fulfilling the purpose for which they were designed—survival.
If you take opioids and you are not in pain or at doses which are not required to control the pain, your pain receptors are not being used to fight the pain at hand. They are being flooded with unused drug.
What happens when this occurs? Euphoria. Relaxation. Peace.
These side effects don’t appear “bad” to those seeking pain relief. But when coupled with tremors, fatigue, constipation, gum inflammation, and dependence.
However, when treating severe pain with opioids, euphoria should not occur. That is your dosage gauge. If it occurs, lower the dose. Increase the dosage if the pain is greater than an 7 or 8/10 all day, watch for euphoria though and do not increase too much.
Euphoria will send you down the road toward dependence faster than any other side effect of the class.

They should be used only as a last resort and then only with caution, at the lowest possible dosage, and absolutely as directed under strict guidance and control of a pain specialist.

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@faithwalker007 Yes your right I certainly don't fit in the addict catagory but they are the ones that destroy it for the people like us who are in real pain

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Faithwalker007 (Renee) | @faithwalker007 | Oct 15, 2020
In reply to @lioness "@faithwalker007 Yes your right I certainly don't fit in the addict catagory but they are the..." + (show)
@lioness

@faithwalker007 Yes your right I certainly don't fit in the addict catagory but they are the ones that destroy it for the people like us who are in real pain

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And pill pushing doctors either too lazy or too arrogant to do their job. One pill doesn’t fit all.

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Jim, Volunteer Mentor | @jimhd | Oct 15, 2020
In reply to @jesfactsmon "@jimhd Jim, after reading your post and your doctor's statement that "CIDP is an umbrella label..." + (show)
@jesfactsmon

@jimhd
Jim, after reading your post and your doctor's statement that "CIDP is an umbrella label for neuropathies" I wondered whether that was true. So I did some web research about it.

From what I read I think your doctor has it backwards, i.e. neuropathy is an umbrella term that includes CIDP as one type, not the other way around.

From what I am reading, CIDP is auto immune, attacks the myelin sheath, similar to multiple sclerosis, with CIDP attacking peripheral nerves instead of the brain & spinal cord as in MS. Other types of neuropathy beside CIDP are the result of nerve damage from other causes (unrelated to immune attacks on the myelin sheath). So CIDP is just a particular type of neuropathy, and not the other way around.

I'm glad I read about it, as I now understand it little better myself. Best, Hank

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@jesfactsmon

Thank you for checking on that. Maybe I heard the doctor wrong. But he did confirm the CIDP diagnosis. He had mentioned the demyelinating a few years ago, but never really addressed it specifically. My youngest sister has MS, as well as pn. Interesting that there's a connection. Obviously I need to read up on it.

Jim

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