Diet restrictions with DCIS diagnosis?

Posted by kikay @kikay, Dec 15, 2023

I just want to know if there are any diet restrictions or any suggestions of diet. I was told by my oncologist to eat plant based and no sweets. Fish and Turkey. Fruits and veggies. This is something new to me all these diet . If you guys are craving for sweets, what is the alternative sweets if no sweets diet?

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@mitch3194

Honey is a natural sugar that is easier for your body to process and has many benefits. I use honey in salad dressings to sweeten.
You can do your research - I found this on the internet... anti-tumor effects of honey have been examined using several cancer cell lines and tissue. Honey has been proven to decrease the tumorigenicity of different cancer types including breast, lung, skin, renal, prostate, colorectal, and cervical cancer.
Buying honey from a local farmer or bee maid honey is in its purest form. Anything from China is not.

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That is good to hear. Will definitely take your advice. I appreciate you.

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@chickenmom10

I am in the same boat. Lose weight and eat veggie and fruit. To help combat cancer. I prefer drink now data is green tea.

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Good to hear your input. Will consider it. I appreciate you.

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My oncology dietitian recommended a Mediterranean diet. Once I researched that I found Dr. William Li's book: EAT TO BEAT YOUR DISEASE. I'm now eating ? Stokes purple potatoes as often as I can get them (the true purple potatoes are reputed to kill cancer stem cells), and a number of other things that I have never had before. Matcha green tea is now a staple in my diet. He encourages dark chocolate. I'm allowing myself 2 squares of HU Salty Dark Chocolate per day (currently). It's 70% Cacao and uses coconut sugar instead of cane sugar. (It's too expensive, so I may eliminate it before I really want to!!) Unfortunately, I also have autoimmune diseases, which complicates things for me, so I have eliminated all gluten, and milk products with lactose. (I use ghee or lactose free half and half - also too expensive!!) The Mediterranean diet also helps the inflammatory issues associated with the autoimmune diseases.
Best wishes!!

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@lovelife2

My oncology dietitian recommended a Mediterranean diet. Once I researched that I found Dr. William Li's book: EAT TO BEAT YOUR DISEASE. I'm now eating ? Stokes purple potatoes as often as I can get them (the true purple potatoes are reputed to kill cancer stem cells), and a number of other things that I have never had before. Matcha green tea is now a staple in my diet. He encourages dark chocolate. I'm allowing myself 2 squares of HU Salty Dark Chocolate per day (currently). It's 70% Cacao and uses coconut sugar instead of cane sugar. (It's too expensive, so I may eliminate it before I really want to!!) Unfortunately, I also have autoimmune diseases, which complicates things for me, so I have eliminated all gluten, and milk products with lactose. (I use ghee or lactose free half and half - also too expensive!!) The Mediterranean diet also helps the inflammatory issues associated with the autoimmune diseases.
Best wishes!!

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BTW, I make my matcha green tea a latte, with soy milk. I am estrogen receptor positive, and the dietitian recommended using soy products to get phytoestrogens. I add the highest MGO Manuka honey I can afford. While this is also expensive, I'm going to continue doing it, because I believe this has healed my hypothyroidism!!!

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@mchler73

@kikay
My Oncologist, who is amazing, said there are no restrictions, but instead to have the “everything in moderation” mindset. That includes everything from food, sugar, alcohol etc. Don’t stop living normally and be miserable, but don’t go overboard either.

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Exactly how I feel. I was recently diagnosed with DCIS and my belief is I'm going to live but in moderation. It's an immediate response to the new life and way of thinking.

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@la012858

Exactly how I feel. I was recently diagnosed with DCIS and my belief is I'm going to live but in moderation. It's an immediate response to the new life and way of thinking.

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I have had many conversations about this over the years, with many doctors and dietitians. The conclusion I came to for myself was to do the best I can. I read every label and avoid processed foods. No box mixes, or canned meals. I avoid as much commercial corn products as I can, and stay away from foods with a lot of added hormones and antibiotics.
I try to buy local as much as possible, local raw honey, local eggs, locally grown vegetables, etc. etc.
I DO NOT, live in bondage to any principle. If I decide during the holidays, I want to get a latte, I do, I do not purchase nut or soy milk I just get a latte. If I want to eat the little chocolate one of the girls at the barn gave me, I do.
I do not do any of these things all the time. I eat a lot of salads, and fresh foods, and almost no meat. I drink tea and tisane instead of coffee most of the time and usually my coffee is just black coffee.
I fight cancer to LIVE, living includes flavors. I plan to enjoy the time I gain by fighting.
My favorite flavors right now are garlic, sage, citrus, and honey. What are the flavors you can’t resist right now?
How can you make those flavors more healthy to live, and fight cancer?

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I also limit added sugars. Frozen blueberries actually taste a whole lot sweeter when heated (think blueberry pie). 1/2 cup in microwave for 1 min or so. I put plain yogurt on top with a few chopped nuts or homemade granola.
I use plain yogurt a lot as a dessert substitute. I keep small containers of toppings to add flavor. Slivered almonds, pecans, walnuts, dried fruit, coconut, and even some broken pieces of very dark chocolate. I feel like I’m in an ice cream shop picking and choosing my add-ins. I only use a little or consider the nuts as part of my daily protein.
Occasionally I add in a spoon of fruit jam - look for the highest fruit and least added sugar, or I cook down fruit to make my own. If you don’t like yogurt, whipped cottage cheese is a good substitute.
I do eat some sweets when desperation hits. My go to is a small sugar cone, 6 gr added sugar, filled with fresh fruit or my yogurt/toppings. I like crunchy foods so the cone and toppings fill that craving.

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@auntieoakley

I have had many conversations about this over the years, with many doctors and dietitians. The conclusion I came to for myself was to do the best I can. I read every label and avoid processed foods. No box mixes, or canned meals. I avoid as much commercial corn products as I can, and stay away from foods with a lot of added hormones and antibiotics.
I try to buy local as much as possible, local raw honey, local eggs, locally grown vegetables, etc. etc.
I DO NOT, live in bondage to any principle. If I decide during the holidays, I want to get a latte, I do, I do not purchase nut or soy milk I just get a latte. If I want to eat the little chocolate one of the girls at the barn gave me, I do.
I do not do any of these things all the time. I eat a lot of salads, and fresh foods, and almost no meat. I drink tea and tisane instead of coffee most of the time and usually my coffee is just black coffee.
I fight cancer to LIVE, living includes flavors. I plan to enjoy the time I gain by fighting.
My favorite flavors right now are garlic, sage, citrus, and honey. What are the flavors you can’t resist right now?
How can you make those flavors more healthy to live, and fight cancer?

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I like what you are doing right now. We still need to have quality of life not because we have DCIS. As long as we are very cautious in what we eat and do and aware of what is right for us. Thank you for sharing.

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@auntieoakley

I have had many conversations about this over the years, with many doctors and dietitians. The conclusion I came to for myself was to do the best I can. I read every label and avoid processed foods. No box mixes, or canned meals. I avoid as much commercial corn products as I can, and stay away from foods with a lot of added hormones and antibiotics.
I try to buy local as much as possible, local raw honey, local eggs, locally grown vegetables, etc. etc.
I DO NOT, live in bondage to any principle. If I decide during the holidays, I want to get a latte, I do, I do not purchase nut or soy milk I just get a latte. If I want to eat the little chocolate one of the girls at the barn gave me, I do.
I do not do any of these things all the time. I eat a lot of salads, and fresh foods, and almost no meat. I drink tea and tisane instead of coffee most of the time and usually my coffee is just black coffee.
I fight cancer to LIVE, living includes flavors. I plan to enjoy the time I gain by fighting.
My favorite flavors right now are garlic, sage, citrus, and honey. What are the flavors you can’t resist right now?
How can you make those flavors more healthy to live, and fight cancer?

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What a fun question! I live in New Mexico, which means I am happiest eating chile. I prefer green, that isn't too hot. (NM chile is like a sauce usually without meat or beans in it, not like chili). You can order "Christmas" which is two sides--one red, one green. It is high in vitamin C but mostly I've adjusted after 40 years here so that things just taste better with it. And it smells delicious roasting in the fall. At times during cancer treatment I haven't wanted to eat much--I think more from stress than anything else. So your idea of "flavor" is great in that it is life-affirming.

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