Post COVID - Sinuses fill when I lie down preventing sleep!

Posted by pez @pez, Sep 29, 2023

I had Covid just before Christmas/ end of 2021. Since then I have suffered each night when I lie down with Post Nasal Drip /catarrh. I have not had close to a good night’s sleep now since and it’s really affecting my mood and quality of life.

I have considered and been treated for allergies and feel certain my condition is not a reaction to environmental or seasonal allergy – see below:

I have suffered from hay fever, and cat allergies in the past – resulting in streaming nose and eyes – but a simple antihistamine has dramatically reduced my symptoms. With the catarrh, the predominant symptom appears to be the continuous collection of thick mucus (or whatever it is) from behind my nose which I continuously feel the need to draw down into my throat and swallow as I am lying down. I have also been through ten continuous seasons now, and travelled abroad, with no discernible difference to my symptoms.

Regardless of where I am in the world; pets or no pets; carpet or no carpet; indoors or outdoors; or what medication I take the catarrh persists. So far I have taken courses of loratadine, cetirizine, promethazine, fexofenadine hydrochloride, benadryl, prednisolone, flixonase/fluticasone, montelukast, sterimar nasal solution, dymista and doxycycline.

In addition, I have introduced an air purifier into the bedroom, and a humidifier. I also perform regular nasal washes especially before bed and have tried sleeping propped up.

Any combination of the above may have reduced my symptoms by some 10-20%, but I might just have imagined it as some nights are better than others.

I remain convinced that my condition is somehow Covid related as I did not suffer at all with it before I had Covid in 2021, but I have suffered ever since.

Of course I am keen to resolve this issue as I cannot imagine living with it indefinitely - I am so exhausted by it and the resultant insomnia which is really taking its toll.

It would be great to know I'm not alone with this problem, and of course any shared remedies would be most welcome.

Thank you.

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@pez

I had Covid just before Christmas/ end of 2021. Since then I have suffered each night when I lie down with Post Nasal Drip /catarrh. I have not had close to a good night’s sleep now since and it’s really affecting my mood and quality of life.

I have considered and been treated for allergies and feel certain my condition is not a reaction to environmental or seasonal allergy – see below:

I have suffered from hay fever, and cat allergies in the past – resulting in streaming nose and eyes – but a simple antihistamine has dramatically reduced my symptoms. With the catarrh, the predominant symptom appears to be the continuous collection of thick mucus (or whatever it is) from behind my nose which I continuously feel the need to draw down into my throat and swallow as I am lying down. I have also been through ten continuous seasons now, and travelled abroad, with no discernible difference to my symptoms.

Regardless of where I am in the world; pets or no pets; carpet or no carpet; indoors or outdoors; or what medication I take the catarrh persists. So far I have taken courses of loratadine, cetirizine, promethazine, fexofenadine hydrochloride, benadryl, prednisolone, flixonase/fluticasone, montelukast, sterimar nasal solution, dymista and doxycycline.

In addition, I have introduced an air purifier into the bedroom, and a humidifier. I also perform regular nasal washes especially before bed and have tried sleeping propped up.

Any combination of the above may have reduced my symptoms by some 10-20%, but I might just have imagined it as some nights are better than others.

I remain convinced that my condition is somehow Covid related as I did not suffer at all with it before I had Covid in 2021, but I have suffered ever since.

Of course I am keen to resolve this issue as I cannot imagine living with it indefinitely – I am so exhausted by it and the resultant insomnia which is really taking its toll. I am SO fed up.

It would be great to know I'm not alone with this problem, and of course any shared remedies would be most welcome.

Thank you.

ps previously posted in ENT before I discovered this page, and have since tried DAO supplements and a low histamine diet to no avail

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I"m sorry that didn't give you relief.

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@pez

I had Covid just before Christmas/ end of 2021. Since then I have suffered each night when I lie down with Post Nasal Drip /catarrh. I have not had close to a good night’s sleep now since and it’s really affecting my mood and quality of life.

I have considered and been treated for allergies and feel certain my condition is not a reaction to environmental or seasonal allergy – see below:

I have suffered from hay fever, and cat allergies in the past – resulting in streaming nose and eyes – but a simple antihistamine has dramatically reduced my symptoms. With the catarrh, the predominant symptom appears to be the continuous collection of thick mucus (or whatever it is) from behind my nose which I continuously feel the need to draw down into my throat and swallow as I am lying down. I have also been through ten continuous seasons now, and travelled abroad, with no discernible difference to my symptoms.

Regardless of where I am in the world; pets or no pets; carpet or no carpet; indoors or outdoors; or what medication I take the catarrh persists. So far I have taken courses of loratadine, cetirizine, promethazine, fexofenadine hydrochloride, benadryl, prednisolone, flixonase/fluticasone, montelukast, sterimar nasal solution, dymista and doxycycline.

In addition, I have introduced an air purifier into the bedroom, and a humidifier. I also perform regular nasal washes especially before bed and have tried sleeping propped up.

Any combination of the above may have reduced my symptoms by some 10-20%, but I might just have imagined it as some nights are better than others.

I remain convinced that my condition is somehow Covid related as I did not suffer at all with it before I had Covid in 2021, but I have suffered ever since.

Of course I am keen to resolve this issue as I cannot imagine living with it indefinitely – I am so exhausted by it and the resultant insomnia which is really taking its toll. I am SO fed up.

It would be great to know I'm not alone with this problem, and of course any shared remedies would be most welcome.

Thank you.

ps previously posted in ENT before I discovered this page, and have since tried DAO supplements and a low histamine diet to no avail

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Same issue.. my doctor recommended sleeping with head lifted.. I also take meds for allergy daily .. never had allergies but after covid my pulmonologist tested me for allergies and discovered allergy for cats, dogs, trees, grass, dust, mold.. After I started meds for allergy my itchy rashes disappeared and post nasal drip significantly improved.. I have a bed with mattress that has a remote that I can’t lift my head up so sleeping that way helps with not waking up as much due to coughing or choking on my own saliva..

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@pez

Interesting. Like you until recently I resisted the idea that it might be gastro. I take omeprazole each day and did way before the current symptoms, but although it keeps the heartburn away, I don't think it has an effect on the gut's histamine levels. I'll ask my doctor to swap me for a while and get back to you all. Thanks for the share.

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Well I’ll be seeing my primary doc early November but after completing 2 weeks of famotodine I have little to no chest pain but phlegm production and coughing it up, while improved for a brief time when I first started it, is back. My primary did say this could take some time (why didn’t she start this a year ago?) and that if famotodine (histamine blocker) doesn’t do it she’ll move me to a PPI ( but isn’t that what omeprozole is?). A year ago she attributed the phlegm to Covid and ‘ride it out’. That didn’t work. At this point I’m not sure anything will but for now I’ll keep up with famotodine and avoid food triggers.

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@pez

Interesting. Like you until recently I resisted the idea that it might be gastro. I take omeprazole each day and did way before the current symptoms, but although it keeps the heartburn away, I don't think it has an effect on the gut's histamine levels. I'll ask my doctor to swap me for a while and get back to you all. Thanks for the share.

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Oh, and I don’t know if I’ve mentioned here that the phlegm production and often accompanying chest flutters aka shortness of breath ( not bad as in I can’t breathe but the need to focus on getting a deep breath) has been diagnosed by pulmonary as asthma ( Covid induced or perhaps present in a very mild sense and brought out by Covid). The treatment I received for that kept me breathing super freely but did not eliminate chest pain and phlegm. I stopped it after 5 months and ending up with bacterial bronchitis which I have never ever had before ( just so happens to be a potential side effect of the Symbicort treatment). Apparently when the stomach sends acid upwards into the esophagus and even throat/sinuses, there’s a respiratory response that produces mucus, or phlegm as a protective measure. It’s my opinion that it’s all related to inflammation and that Covid caused it all. But what’s that worth? Nada so far.

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@pez

I had Covid just before Christmas/ end of 2021. Since then I have suffered each night when I lie down with Post Nasal Drip /catarrh. I have not had close to a good night’s sleep now since and it’s really affecting my mood and quality of life.

I have considered and been treated for allergies and feel certain my condition is not a reaction to environmental or seasonal allergy – see below:

I have suffered from hay fever, and cat allergies in the past – resulting in streaming nose and eyes – but a simple antihistamine has dramatically reduced my symptoms. With the catarrh, the predominant symptom appears to be the continuous collection of thick mucus (or whatever it is) from behind my nose which I continuously feel the need to draw down into my throat and swallow as I am lying down. I have also been through ten continuous seasons now, and travelled abroad, with no discernible difference to my symptoms.

Regardless of where I am in the world; pets or no pets; carpet or no carpet; indoors or outdoors; or what medication I take the catarrh persists. So far I have taken courses of loratadine, cetirizine, promethazine, fexofenadine hydrochloride, benadryl, prednisolone, flixonase/fluticasone, montelukast, sterimar nasal solution, dymista and doxycycline.

In addition, I have introduced an air purifier into the bedroom, and a humidifier. I also perform regular nasal washes especially before bed and have tried sleeping propped up.

Any combination of the above may have reduced my symptoms by some 10-20%, but I might just have imagined it as some nights are better than others.

I remain convinced that my condition is somehow Covid related as I did not suffer at all with it before I had Covid in 2021, but I have suffered ever since.

Of course I am keen to resolve this issue as I cannot imagine living with it indefinitely – I am so exhausted by it and the resultant insomnia which is really taking its toll. I am SO fed up.

It would be great to know I'm not alone with this problem, and of course any shared remedies would be most welcome.

Thank you.

ps previously posted in ENT before I discovered this page, and have since tried DAO supplements and a low histamine diet to no avail

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My ENT prescribed omeprazole, but i haven’t started taking it yet. Anyone experiencing side effects with the Omeprazole? I have always been relatively healthy, but since having Covid , i have developed uveitis, heart rate increasing with minimal activity, fatigue, and chromic post nasal drip. I am on eye drops - the doctor is having me do a long taper(3 months) because when i tapered over 6 weeks the uveitis recurred. I am using Ryaltris nasal spray, not sure if it is helping . I stopped claritin and then tried allegra. They didn’t work. The dr. Prescribed Singulair which seemed to help, but I was experiencing side effects so i stopped. Then I had allergy testing and started allergy shots three weeks ago. It is too soon to know if that will help. I just want my relatively good health back.

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@walk4life

My ENT prescribed omeprazole, but i haven’t started taking it yet. Anyone experiencing side effects with the Omeprazole? I have always been relatively healthy, but since having Covid , i have developed uveitis, heart rate increasing with minimal activity, fatigue, and chromic post nasal drip. I am on eye drops - the doctor is having me do a long taper(3 months) because when i tapered over 6 weeks the uveitis recurred. I am using Ryaltris nasal spray, not sure if it is helping . I stopped claritin and then tried allegra. They didn’t work. The dr. Prescribed Singulair which seemed to help, but I was experiencing side effects so i stopped. Then I had allergy testing and started allergy shots three weeks ago. It is too soon to know if that will help. I just want my relatively good health back.

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Oh what were your side effects from Singulair? My pulmonologist also prescribed that when I asked for an alternative to Symbicort (a combo corticosteroid and bronchiodilator inhaler). I never used it but I’m thinking about it because I’m having more respiratory symptoms. Not sure why , maybe the weather changing, I don’t know. I’d sure like to hear about your side effects though.

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@pez

I had Covid just before Christmas/ end of 2021. Since then I have suffered each night when I lie down with Post Nasal Drip /catarrh. I have not had close to a good night’s sleep now since and it’s really affecting my mood and quality of life.

I have considered and been treated for allergies and feel certain my condition is not a reaction to environmental or seasonal allergy – see below:

I have suffered from hay fever, and cat allergies in the past – resulting in streaming nose and eyes – but a simple antihistamine has dramatically reduced my symptoms. With the catarrh, the predominant symptom appears to be the continuous collection of thick mucus (or whatever it is) from behind my nose which I continuously feel the need to draw down into my throat and swallow as I am lying down. I have also been through ten continuous seasons now, and travelled abroad, with no discernible difference to my symptoms.

Regardless of where I am in the world; pets or no pets; carpet or no carpet; indoors or outdoors; or what medication I take the catarrh persists. So far I have taken courses of loratadine, cetirizine, promethazine, fexofenadine hydrochloride, benadryl, prednisolone, flixonase/fluticasone, montelukast, sterimar nasal solution, dymista and doxycycline.

In addition, I have introduced an air purifier into the bedroom, and a humidifier. I also perform regular nasal washes especially before bed and have tried sleeping propped up.

Any combination of the above may have reduced my symptoms by some 10-20%, but I might just have imagined it as some nights are better than others.

I remain convinced that my condition is somehow Covid related as I did not suffer at all with it before I had Covid in 2021, but I have suffered ever since.

Of course I am keen to resolve this issue as I cannot imagine living with it indefinitely – I am so exhausted by it and the resultant insomnia which is really taking its toll. I am SO fed up.

It would be great to know I'm not alone with this problem, and of course any shared remedies would be most welcome.

Thank you.

ps previously posted in ENT before I discovered this page, and have since tried DAO supplements and a low histamine diet to no avail

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@mimioto , I experienced extreme depression after taking Singulair for about 10 days. I have two friends that take it and don’t have any problems with side effects. It has worked great for them. If i were you, i would definitely give it a try.

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@pez

Interesting. Like you until recently I resisted the idea that it might be gastro. I take omeprazole each day and did way before the current symptoms, but although it keeps the heartburn away, I don't think it has an effect on the gut's histamine levels. I'll ask my doctor to swap me for a while and get back to you all. Thanks for the share.

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Hello again,

So I swapped out the omeprazole for famotidine but it was not strong enough to deal with my acid reflux (I have a hiatus hernia). My doctor said I could take both so I tried that but same same. I also tried introducing the beef liver extract but without a noticeable change - this was all a few weeks ago.

However, just these past few days, things do seem to have shifted slightly away from the quite thick and copious mucus production I have experienced over the past 2 or so years, to something much less in quantity. Has something triggered this? Has it just run it's course? Is it just a lapse? I guess time will tell. I will again report back with any further news.

Thanks again and good luck all with this horrible thing.

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@pez

I had Covid just before Christmas/ end of 2021. Since then I have suffered each night when I lie down with Post Nasal Drip /catarrh. I have not had close to a good night’s sleep now since and it’s really affecting my mood and quality of life.

I have considered and been treated for allergies and feel certain my condition is not a reaction to environmental or seasonal allergy – see below:

I have suffered from hay fever, and cat allergies in the past – resulting in streaming nose and eyes – but a simple antihistamine has dramatically reduced my symptoms. With the catarrh, the predominant symptom appears to be the continuous collection of thick mucus (or whatever it is) from behind my nose which I continuously feel the need to draw down into my throat and swallow as I am lying down. I have also been through ten continuous seasons now, and travelled abroad, with no discernible difference to my symptoms.

Regardless of where I am in the world; pets or no pets; carpet or no carpet; indoors or outdoors; or what medication I take the catarrh persists. So far I have taken courses of loratadine, cetirizine, promethazine, fexofenadine hydrochloride, benadryl, prednisolone, flixonase/fluticasone, montelukast, sterimar nasal solution, dymista and doxycycline.

In addition, I have introduced an air purifier into the bedroom, and a humidifier. I also perform regular nasal washes especially before bed and have tried sleeping propped up.

Any combination of the above may have reduced my symptoms by some 10-20%, but I might just have imagined it as some nights are better than others.

I remain convinced that my condition is somehow Covid related as I did not suffer at all with it before I had Covid in 2021, but I have suffered ever since.

Of course I am keen to resolve this issue as I cannot imagine living with it indefinitely – I am so exhausted by it and the resultant insomnia which is really taking its toll. I am SO fed up.

It would be great to know I'm not alone with this problem, and of course any shared remedies would be most welcome.

Thank you.

ps previously posted in ENT before I discovered this page, and have since tried DAO supplements and a low histamine diet to no avail

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All of the symptoms you are talking about I also have and in addition I have a bad case of tinnitus which is extremely irritating I have had nasal surgery with no help in the issue very frustrating and I agree my quality of life is suffering I to as a child had bad allergies or hay fever but have out grown that 2o years ago since I am now 67 years old so I don't know the answer nor does anybody else I am currently in two long haul programs one with Cleveland clinic and one with UC Medical center. Let me know if you come across anything that works.

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@pez

I had Covid just before Christmas/ end of 2021. Since then I have suffered each night when I lie down with Post Nasal Drip /catarrh. I have not had close to a good night’s sleep now since and it’s really affecting my mood and quality of life.

I have considered and been treated for allergies and feel certain my condition is not a reaction to environmental or seasonal allergy – see below:

I have suffered from hay fever, and cat allergies in the past – resulting in streaming nose and eyes – but a simple antihistamine has dramatically reduced my symptoms. With the catarrh, the predominant symptom appears to be the continuous collection of thick mucus (or whatever it is) from behind my nose which I continuously feel the need to draw down into my throat and swallow as I am lying down. I have also been through ten continuous seasons now, and travelled abroad, with no discernible difference to my symptoms.

Regardless of where I am in the world; pets or no pets; carpet or no carpet; indoors or outdoors; or what medication I take the catarrh persists. So far I have taken courses of loratadine, cetirizine, promethazine, fexofenadine hydrochloride, benadryl, prednisolone, flixonase/fluticasone, montelukast, sterimar nasal solution, dymista and doxycycline.

In addition, I have introduced an air purifier into the bedroom, and a humidifier. I also perform regular nasal washes especially before bed and have tried sleeping propped up.

Any combination of the above may have reduced my symptoms by some 10-20%, but I might just have imagined it as some nights are better than others.

I remain convinced that my condition is somehow Covid related as I did not suffer at all with it before I had Covid in 2021, but I have suffered ever since.

Of course I am keen to resolve this issue as I cannot imagine living with it indefinitely – I am so exhausted by it and the resultant insomnia which is really taking its toll. I am SO fed up.

It would be great to know I'm not alone with this problem, and of course any shared remedies would be most welcome.

Thank you.

ps previously posted in ENT before I discovered this page, and have since tried DAO supplements and a low histamine diet to no avail

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Have the same problem. Have to sleep sitting up. Only get 2-4 hours. Absolutely exhausted.` Use a lot of cough syrup.

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