Newly Diagnosed with Smoldering Multiple Myeloma: Watch & wait

Posted by lfevold @lfevold, Oct 22, 2020

Interested in connecting with others with the same diagnosis. Looking into dietary changes that could help.
I will introduce myself to the group. This will be long so sorry in advanced.

I was a Lab Tech for 15 years so of course we ran test samples on ourselves in training. I have always had an elevated ESR - I put that down to allergies. Jump ahead to 2013 I started to have GI issues plus a couple of cycles of Diverticulitis. Local doc ran a panel for Celiacs but the was negative but the IgA was 1533 mg/dl, no follow-up even though I asked. GI symptoms went away. 2019 started having issues with GI again plus a slightly decreased Hgb not bad but put me through colonoscopy and upper GI - nothing remarkable. Blood work the IgA was now 1960 mg/do. Total Iron was slightly decreased so just put me on over the counter Iron supplements. Fast forward to June 2020, gi issues (diarrhea for 6 weeks) - local doc ignored it. At that point I requested a referral to Mayo Clinic/Rochester. Through all of the testing for GI issues which nothing found remarkable, I asked about the IgA which they ran again, came back 2350 mg/dl. Also C Reactive Protein was elevated. They referred me to a Rheumatologist who ran all of the RA type testing but included the MGUS screening. I have an M Spike of 1.6 mg/dl. Low Lambda Light Chain but Kappa was right on the top end so the Kappa/Lambda Ragio is a little over 5.0. Also re ran the Immunology levels IgG low at 326, IgM low at 10 and IgA still at 2350. So the RA doc referred me to Hematology. They ordered Iron studies which are normal now, CT Skeletal no lesions seen, and Bone Marrow Biopsy - came back as Plasma Cell Myeloma with approx 20% plasma cells. Slightly hupocellular. Plasma Cell morphology abnormal large cells with large nucleoli and binucleation. Plasma Cells express: monotypic kappa light chains, CD38 & CD138. They do not express CD18 or CD45.

Final DX after meeting with specialist.
Smoldering Multiple Myeloma Subtype IgA Kappa Light Chain with an average risk of progression. 20% Plasma Cells, 1.6 M-Spike, 5 Kappa/Lambda ratio. On FISH I do have the 1q gain marker. At this point I am at a Watch & Wait with blood & physical exam every 3 months.

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@cheft

I’m in Twin Cities MN. Rochester MN Mayo is 2 hours away. I did look up trials that may be available however they seem focused on high risk smoldering myeloma. I have been told I’m currently low risk but not sure how they decide that. Oncologist said I have 25% chance in next two years of going to active myeloma. My effected marrow went from 5-7% last year to 10% last week. I am going to talk to the Mayo docs for second opinion. As far as how am I? Ok I guess, just worried about if it gets worse in next year or two how successful is treatment in keeping me around longer? And how long can I expect to live with active?

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@cheft My apologies for assuming you were in the Virginia area given the info you said about the cancer institute you were seen at! Yes, definitely head to Mayo Clinic for a second opinion. The team at Rochester is stellar. My oncologist was part of that team until he relocated out here about 6 years ago. It is worth the peace of mind to know you are doing the best you can for your situation, and feel secure in the answers you are given. I know from experience with different health issues, that as a patient, you deal with everything much more confidently when you have taken the effort and time to look in to all avenues of education, and treatment, making your decisions wisely based on what you find out.

Please let me know what you decide!
Ginger

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I am in the same situation. I am in a wait and see as well. Follow up every 3 months.

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@1nan

@lfevold Hello, Linda. Allow me to introduce myself. Colleen invited me into your conversation because I was diagnosed at Mayo Clinic in Rochester. A high sed rate was red flag on my first visit to a rheumatologist in 2002, and I start my long journey with MGUS and a wonderful oncologist. That year I went to Mayo, was diagnosed there with IgG Kappa Myeloma in 2004. My greatest life blessing is that I am not a worrier, so following smoldering Myeloma until 2016 when I started treatment was an issue only because of monitoring it with periodic tests. Feel free to check out my other posts for my life on Connect since then. We are to eat common sense balanced diet which has been difficult for me for various reasons since treatment started so I concentrate on protein and then fruits and vegetables. Salt and sugar have been additives far too often, but they helped with intake and I reached remission in spite of myself. You are fortunate in that you understand the inns and outs of all the lab work we need to keep an eye on. Understanding that helps us be our own best advocate and I’m sure you will be able to do that. What else might I be able to help you with based on my experience? Nancy

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My husband was diagnosed with Smouldering myeloma. Our life has changed..waiting is awful. trying to do everything we can to restrain, delay disease onset . He’s a scientist and researcher. Seems to us it would be better to treat and stop disease before it explodes.. Is there anything out there to treat it NOW.

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@fluffy56

My husband was diagnosed with Smouldering myeloma. Our life has changed..waiting is awful. trying to do everything we can to restrain, delay disease onset . He’s a scientist and researcher. Seems to us it would be better to treat and stop disease before it explodes.. Is there anything out there to treat it NOW.

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@fluffy56 Hello from PA. I was tagged by Colleen to reply to your post, and I would be honored to help you get your life back. It won't be the same as before, but it can be one of good quality without consuming your lives with fear and constant preoccupation of this diagnosis. Can you please tell me when and where your husband received his diagnosis?
Peace, Nancy
(My favorite explanation of Peace is. " it does not mean to be in a place where there is no noise, trouble or hard work. It means to be in the midst of those things and still be calm in your heart".
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@1nan

@fluffy56 Hello from PA. I was tagged by Colleen to reply to your post, and I would be honored to help you get your life back. It won't be the same as before, but it can be one of good quality without consuming your lives with fear and constant preoccupation of this diagnosis. Can you please tell me when and where your husband received his diagnosis?
Peace, Nancy
(My favorite explanation of Peace is. " it does not mean to be in a place where there is no noise, trouble or hard work. It means to be in the midst of those things and still be calm in your heart".
Unknown)

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he was officially diagnosed two months ago in the San Francisco Bay area. Thank you for responding.

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@fluffy56

he was officially diagnosed two months ago in the San Francisco Bay area. Thank you for responding.

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You truly are new to this diagnosis, and of course your responses are fresh. I am going to tell you something about myself but it is not for you to find a comparison. My response to getting cancer had not one element of fear. I tell you that because everything I have learned about dealing with myeloma, has shown me that living happily with that diagnosis is very possible. I am quite the odd duck in having that response, but it has served me well as you can imagine. I went from MGUS to smoldering myeloma in less than 2 years. It will be 20 years ago next October! I was on watch and wait until 2016 when it was determined that I needed to start treatment. Now this is the piece I want you and your husband to consider. If I had spent those years worrying instead of finding a way to maintain a good quality life, what would that have looked like? When you guys have had stressful events, can you say how you dealt with them? Because you did get through successfully. And you can do it again. Would you like to find a way to enjoy life while keeping myeloma on a back burner? It is possible and I would like to help you do that. In fact I am doing exactly that again because I have been on watch and wait again for the last couple years as my numbers increase, but I understand what is happening, and know what I need to do. Can you think what I may be able to do to help you cope and get to a better place with this diagnosis?
Nancy

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@fluffy56

My husband was diagnosed with Smouldering myeloma. Our life has changed..waiting is awful. trying to do everything we can to restrain, delay disease onset . He’s a scientist and researcher. Seems to us it would be better to treat and stop disease before it explodes.. Is there anything out there to treat it NOW.

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In reply to fluffy56:

What type of scientist is your husband? Does he know about pubmed.gov?

I would start looking for a cancer center where there are people who have expertise in the illness you describe.

What do doctors who treat your husband's condition say about treating immediately or watching and waiting? What is the basis for their recommendations?

Regarding the emotional component of all this, I suggest that a cool, calm, rational, and active approach would yield the best results. Emotional regulation can be difficult, but it is possible.

It could be worse. It could be a lot worse. Contrast being told that the approach will be watch and wait versus being told after a lab test that you have an emergency appointment with an oncologist for the next morning, and then hearing that without immediate chemotherapy you would be dead in three weeks. From that point of view, watching and waiting doesn't seem so bad.

Does your husband have any friends who could help him with some investigation of what the options are? You know what they say about lawyers. A lawyer who represents himself in court has a fool for a lawyer.

I still recommend that your husband be active in finding out as much as he can about treatment options, but I also recommend talking to people who have expertise in the field and who have already thought about the questions he has raised.

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@timt347

In reply to fluffy56:

What type of scientist is your husband? Does he know about pubmed.gov?

I would start looking for a cancer center where there are people who have expertise in the illness you describe.

What do doctors who treat your husband's condition say about treating immediately or watching and waiting? What is the basis for their recommendations?

Regarding the emotional component of all this, I suggest that a cool, calm, rational, and active approach would yield the best results. Emotional regulation can be difficult, but it is possible.

It could be worse. It could be a lot worse. Contrast being told that the approach will be watch and wait versus being told after a lab test that you have an emergency appointment with an oncologist for the next morning, and then hearing that without immediate chemotherapy you would be dead in three weeks. From that point of view, watching and waiting doesn't seem so bad.

Does your husband have any friends who could help him with some investigation of what the options are? You know what they say about lawyers. A lawyer who represents himself in court has a fool for a lawyer.

I still recommend that your husband be active in finding out as much as he can about treatment options, but I also recommend talking to people who have expertise in the field and who have already thought about the questions he has raised.

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my husband,by training, is a PhD inorganic chemist. He was a researcher and continues to be. Your language construct sounds very much like him.
We are very aware that it could be worse. What we are trying to do is to abbreviate this disease in someway if possible. That is why we are searching for a trial or information about treatments at the smouldering multiple myeloma phase.
Our thinking is why wait until it is a full-blown case if you could possibly stop it before it becomes a full-blown case of multiple myeloma

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@fluffy56

my husband,by training, is a PhD inorganic chemist. He was a researcher and continues to be. Your language construct sounds very much like him.
We are very aware that it could be worse. What we are trying to do is to abbreviate this disease in someway if possible. That is why we are searching for a trial or information about treatments at the smouldering multiple myeloma phase.
Our thinking is why wait until it is a full-blown case if you could possibly stop it before it becomes a full-blown case of multiple myeloma

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It is great that your husband knows how to do research. I don't , but that does not stop me from having opinions based on what little I do know (ha ha).

As a starting point, maybe your husband could find, or get help in finding, a survey article that describes approaches to treating smoldering myeloma.

The National Institutes of Health (NIH) has a clinical trials database, but I guess you already know that. As an organization, NIH issues grants to fund about 90% of its research, but about 10% is done on the NIH campus in Bethesda MD.

When I was diagnosed with AML I happened to belong to a Toastmasters club that met in a National Cancer Institute building. (NCI is part of NIH. PubMed is also part of NIH through the National Library of Medicine. I once had a library card there). One of the club members was a cancer researcher who specialized in leukemia, and he talked to his coworkers, and that led to some advice about the right treatment.

I hope some of this will be helpful . Please let us know what you find out.

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@fluffy56

my husband,by training, is a PhD inorganic chemist. He was a researcher and continues to be. Your language construct sounds very much like him.
We are very aware that it could be worse. What we are trying to do is to abbreviate this disease in someway if possible. That is why we are searching for a trial or information about treatments at the smouldering multiple myeloma phase.
Our thinking is why wait until it is a full-blown case if you could possibly stop it before it becomes a full-blown case of multiple myeloma

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Hi again. Since you are getting a lot of suggestions from others I thought I would tell you a little bit about what I learned over the past 20 years regarding your questions. First of all, as a Registered Nurse I always suggested that people facing a serious diagnosis find out where they know the most, see the most and do the most regarding their diagnosis. That took me to Mayo Clinic in Minnesota in 2002. They have a team of myeloma specialists, and my doctor there works with my local oncologist in all ways requested and needed. In fact Multiple Myeloma was identified and named there many years ago. Secondly, there is no cure for myeloma, but there is a chance that during your wait and watch you never do need treatment. In that case the treatment is much more of a serious risk to you than watching and waiting. As I said, I enjoyed a wonderful 14 years on watch and wait before I even needed treatment . I was in remission by 2019 and still have not gone back on treatment even though I came out of remission a year later. I would be happy to help you navigate that waiting so it does and take over your life. Nancy

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