Confused and sad

Posted by kayefo @kayefo, Jan 26, 2023

I am 55 and dated a man who is the same age for 7 months. He was diagnosed with prostrate cancer in October and I have not seen him since. The only correspondence is via text if I initiate it. He had 30 rounds of radiation. I told him I would wait and I have. He is now saying he doesn’t want to date, he has changed both mentally and physically, he has no sexual desire due to the radiation and is mentally not right. I knew ED was a possible side affect and I fine with it. I just want to be in his life even if just friends. We enjoyed the same things and had so much fun together. I have to realize I am the same person and he has changed. It is so hard and painful. I love this man.

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@michaelcharles

Flippant is commenting 8 mos later to a post, whick clearly indicates that you know nothing about the person.
Melcanada is fighting advanced cancer and has been a supportive commentator to many for years.
Make the effort to read his many posts on many threads, and then keep your negative comments to yourself.

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Hi Michael,
First of all, I’m new to the forum, so I did not see Mel’s post until now. Second, I don’t see my post as negative at all. I was just highlighting the importance of quality of life. Sexual function may not be important to some, but the loss of it is devastating to others. Sure, it may not be worth dying for, but hearing the old “just be happy you’re alive” trope feels like a slap in the face. So many here are coping with the loss of of components if life we once took for granted, like sexual function and urinary continence. We don’t need need to hear that these losses are unimportant, especially not in a forum that people turn to for support.

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@narus

I had prostate cancer at64 The worst of the experience was Lupron, do a search on the internet Lupron ruined my life . After treatment I was weak all the time and had a hard time walking, no sexual feelings and mental confusion. After researching these symptoms I had a testorone test by another doctor and found that it was 53.
I began Testorone replacement therapy which was an IM shot every two weeks that I gave myself.
My PSA briefly came up to .2 but returned to .1 after three months.
I began the carnivore diet and lost 46 pounds and exercise every day.
The one thing I discovered is my doctor was wrong about everything and working with data 20 years old.
I think your friend can make a full recovery but it is hard work and he needs to see a competent Dr.

My ED is gone and I sometimes wake up excited. I will stop taking testorone next month and see what the blood work looks like.

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You said your Dr was wrong about everything. Can you give me pointers on things to do or try after lupron. My husband has went through prostate cancer and we used lupron and hifu. It's a new procedure that was just fda approved in the US.

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@betteroutdoors

Hi Michael,
First of all, I’m new to the forum, so I did not see Mel’s post until now. Second, I don’t see my post as negative at all. I was just highlighting the importance of quality of life. Sexual function may not be important to some, but the loss of it is devastating to others. Sure, it may not be worth dying for, but hearing the old “just be happy you’re alive” trope feels like a slap in the face. So many here are coping with the loss of of components if life we once took for granted, like sexual function and urinary continence. We don’t need need to hear that these losses are unimportant, especially not in a forum that people turn to for support.

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You are so right, encourage ppl, don't trivialize the chances.
I've been dealing with PC for 7 years now but just now going to start chemo. I refuse to let PC define who I am though. It will not depress me or alter my relationships. It is what it is, deal with it and give thanks evert day for what you have.

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This disease is a confident killer. I've been married 53 years to my husband and the diagnosis was not easy to hear. It caused great distance between us for close to 5 months. We finally got our footing after doing research, changing doctors and deciding that we're going to live life. My husbands PC is non-operable, stage 4. Please give him time to adjust to his situation. Everyone is different.

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@ronc320403

You are so right, encourage ppl, don't trivialize the chances.
I've been dealing with PC for 7 years now but just now going to start chemo. I refuse to let PC define who I am though. It will not depress me or alter my relationships. It is what it is, deal with it and give thanks evert day for what you have.

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RIGHT ON

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@johannha36

You said your Dr was wrong about everything. Can you give me pointers on things to do or try after lupron. My husband has went through prostate cancer and we used lupron and hifu. It's a new procedure that was just fda approved in the US.

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Hello, 66 yr old here, PSA was 14 at HI-FU attempt, Gleason 4+3=7. Was told it was roughly 60 % success rate, However, I was unsuccessful with my Hi-FU, and developed klebsiela days after procedure, prolonging the healing process. As it was explained to me, HI-FU ( University of Chicago Medicine) was not able to reach anterior portion of prostate due to distance effectiveness, missed, and/or resilience to treatment. PSA dropped to 8, hovered there for a year or so, and began to rise back to 10. Biopsy confirmed cancer still present. Extremely disappointed with results, I am now (2 years later) in the 4 mth Eligard and 28 sessions of SBRT routine. After Pet scan revealed some recurrence in previous HI-FU treated areas, I declined a repeat HI-FU and declined trying Tulsa, in my opinion , a cousin to the Hi-Fu. Everybody is different, I hope it works for you. BTW, I was not prescribed Lupron with the HIFU treatments, that could make a difference. Hopefully I will get this all behind me by spring, best of luck to everyone.....Happy New Year

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That has to be so very difficult. My husband became a completely different person because of prostate cancer treatment. He needed a lot of reassurance & comforting to become secure with our relationship. His complete loss of sexual desire was unexpected. We expected ED but not complete lots of interest. I am fortunate that he still loves to hold hands, cuddle, hug, etc. And he still enjoys commenting on my butt LOL. I would continue to try reaching out to your guy with reassurances of your love for the essense of who he is, as that is still there. In addition to the extreme fatigue of radiation & redefining his future, he’s quite probably feeling that he is “no longer a man”. There can be so many mixed emotions that a man may never have felt before. Get initiating contact without pressure & perhaps read up on the psychological impact of prostate cancer. Hopefully he will come to a point of confidence & security & appreciate the love you have for him.

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For myself, a 68 year old with two 4+4's and 9 weeks out from my RARP, I find myself a very different man.

Before you ask, yes it was nerve sparring 1.5 bundles.

Incontinence is improving but ED has not changed.

I was told that sex would be different, not how different. For me, it's been a huge blow to how I feel about myself.

I have tried Cialis and a pump and wound up with a blueish penis and a 5 minute erection. I will follow on with penile rehabilitation in hopes of recovery in 1-2 years.

Am very happy to be done with the cancer but the loss of my sexual life is profound. Life moves on and we all have our own journey.

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@dmccarthy104

For myself, a 68 year old with two 4+4's and 9 weeks out from my RARP, I find myself a very different man.

Before you ask, yes it was nerve sparring 1.5 bundles.

Incontinence is improving but ED has not changed.

I was told that sex would be different, not how different. For me, it's been a huge blow to how I feel about myself.

I have tried Cialis and a pump and wound up with a blueish penis and a 5 minute erection. I will follow on with penile rehabilitation in hopes of recovery in 1-2 years.

Am very happy to be done with the cancer but the loss of my sexual life is profound. Life moves on and we all have our own journey.

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Dmccarthy104 I myself am only 7 months post surgery. I posted Trimix injections good or bad. I would encourage you to read there are so good comments from others and I just posted an update on there. Yes sex is different I myself shed many tears over the changes but now have mostly accepted these changes. Time helps. It is not easy but we can get through this. Life is good it will get better and easier for you. My best to you

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