Lobular Breast Cancer: Let's share and support each other

Posted by mjay @mjay, Jul 28, 2022

Since lobular breast cancer is only 10-15% of all breast cancer diagnoses and now understood to be a unique subset of breast cancer as a whole with different characteristics than ductal breast cancer necessitating different treatments and inherently different risks, I would like to see a separate category under the breast cancer forum so that the most appropriate info is being disseminated for this specific subset of BC. Just a thought.

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Breast Cancer Support Group.

@hollyng

Mayo in Rochester has lobular oncologist.
Prayers for you. I too have ILC and am treated at Mayo in Fl.

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Many thanks! Wishing you well 😁

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Dr Jason Mouabbi at MD Anderson -Houston is an ILC specialist & is excellent.

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@hollyng

I qualify for the 5 day also. I go to Mayo Fl.
It will be in a prone position. Can you please share your experience?
Thank you.

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Please tell me a where and which Dr. I am so nervous about radiation. I've had a "slightly enlarged heart" show up on CT that are ordered for a different cancer type. And I already have issues with my lungs. I've spent a lot of time trying to find a place that offers prone radiation. I will be checking Mayo Jacksonville. Thank you in advance.

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@lhwoz

Hi there
New here. I was diagnosed in dec with ILC 2.1 cm. Had lumpectomy and sentinal node removal last week and found out 1 node had "rare isolated tomor cells". My margins weren't clear so I have to go in for re-excision. I am feeling very anxious about lumpectomy decision bc possibly mastectomy could be done. But Ive been advised that outcomes were same for both options and conserving breats more ideal for me? I am small chested and feel like if it doesnt help outcome why go thru all surgeries/spacers and implants? The plan is radiation starting about 4 weeks after final re excision and unsure about chemo, then the hormone blocking meds for post menopausal. You seem to be in similar situation and to everyone reading does this seem on par with your plans if similar? Were you recommended same plan? Any input so welcome. This all is just brutal. Oh and FYI I had been on HRT for 5 years bc menopause was so rough (i am 55) and MD said I was a good candidate bc no history of breast cancer.

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Hello there. I am new to this forum. I have ILC and had a lumpectomy and sentinal lobe removal and two of the three were cancerous. In addition, the path report had little dots at the margin. I went in for a re-excision. That path report took a long time to come back, and still showed dots at the margins. I am wondering if your last path was clear, and if you went on to radiation? My doctor thinks mastectomy would be safest (and easier for her so she doesn't have to worry about the difficulty imaging these hard to see dots) but trying to get second opinion. I would really rather not have mastectomy. My anxiety is through the roof, and I am very bereft. Thank you for listening, my best wishes to all.

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Hello @susandesign I am, as always, sorry to hear of anyone new entering this journey. This forum is a really great spot to land, however...I think 2nd opinions always a good thing - I got one even while I was in the middle of radiation just to know that I gathered as much info as possible

On my 2nd lumpectomy (re-excision) my margins came back clear. I am not sure if this is helpful but I had done research and asked my surgeon to take a wide berth bc I wanted 2 mm clearance if possible. I am not sure if she did for original lumpectomy but perhaps the re-excision. That meant no cancerous cells within 2 mm of the margin as opposed to a well accepted narrower clearance. I honestly don't know how they decide what to take and what not to take (they cant really see during surgery and ILC especially tricky?). Anyways, I also wanted to avoid mastectomy but also went with what my MD indicated. She recommended lumpectomy (and re-excision) although if I had wanted mastectomy then could also choose - she was not recommending it for me at that time. I believe if my re-excision had come back without clear margins again she probably would have recommended mastectomy like your MD. I had one of 2 lymph node result say "rare isolated tumor cell" which all insisted is considered Node Negative (still scary). They radiated up into my node area to handle that. Of course I worried that by that time much time had passed but they didn't see a problem with that.

I am no MD and only offer my perspective but think a 2nd opinion always good, but there is the scare of it taking up more time and delaying treatment? Which is why I continued on my path and then finally got a 2nd so late - by the time referrals etc worked out I was into radiation.

I completely understand the anxiety. it's such a scary time and while family and support are usually good, nothing helps what's inside you head, and when its YOU is just You in that mind. I can see how this would be confusing and stressful and also scary. I guess I would weigh peace of mind and also timing - how soon could they do a 3rd re-excision, have they ever done that, and why path taking so long. Also - I really had to consider how much I trusted my surgeon and the practice/my medical team being up on the latest so that I could feel that while many decision were up to me I was not the one calling it all and leaving it all in my hands. I suppose in other words if your MD is recommending a mastectomy perhaps it should be considered based on her experience and knowledge? I know these are no answers but I can very much see how you have sides to consider. I do believe mental health and anxiety are a factory and perhaps should be up on the list in terms of "what will give you more reassurance" down the road. And lastly - ughhh this all really stinks and I wish I could swat it all away.

I wish you the best - please keep us posted and please take time to give you brain a break if possible - yoga, hike, walk, girlfriend time. I have found that helpful. Much love to you!

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@susandesign
Welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect!
The breast cancer support group is quite active and you already had one very good response to your dilemma.
It is hard to know what to do when you are in the middle of being diagnosed.
You should try to get a second opinion and a third if needed. This is the time when you want to know that you are on the right track.
Your doctor may even be able to recommend someone.
Otherwise, look for a University Medical Center.
I was diagnosed 31 years ago. With my cancer I didn’t really have an option and had a mastectomy. I got a second oncology opinion at Sloan Kettering- agreeing with my oncologist’s plan.
You will have time- you want it done right.
Wishing you well!

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I had my mastectomy on Halloween. It went well. I have very little pain. Still have drains in. I think it depends on the lymph nodes they removed if I'll need more treatment. Hopefully, the results will be in on those this next Wed. at my follow up appt. I'm hopeful and feeling good about everything. So far.

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@kimogi57

Please tell me a where and which Dr. I am so nervous about radiation. I've had a "slightly enlarged heart" show up on CT that are ordered for a different cancer type. And I already have issues with my lungs. I've spent a lot of time trying to find a place that offers prone radiation. I will be checking Mayo Jacksonville. Thank you in advance.

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Mayo Fl does prone.

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I would like to ask others about timelines - how long after your diagnosis did you get surgery? My first ILC (10mm) was found 7 weeks ago. They then searched for and found another (6mm). I am not due to have a mastectomy for another three weeks minimum - so ten weeks from it first being identified. Does this seem like a long time? I have been fine about it all, but find the time delay concerning. I may be able to have a full mastectomy without reconstruction next week; I am wondering whether this could be worthwhile, but have not been able to speak with my surgeon. Thank you for your info!

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@ahigge

I would like to ask others about timelines - how long after your diagnosis did you get surgery? My first ILC (10mm) was found 7 weeks ago. They then searched for and found another (6mm). I am not due to have a mastectomy for another three weeks minimum - so ten weeks from it first being identified. Does this seem like a long time? I have been fine about it all, but find the time delay concerning. I may be able to have a full mastectomy without reconstruction next week; I am wondering whether this could be worthwhile, but have not been able to speak with my surgeon. Thank you for your info!

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I know how you feel! It is so hard to wait for surgery. I had ILC that was stage 1 in L breast and IDC that was stage 1 in R breast. No lymph node involvement. I was to have the bilateral mastectomy at Mayo 6 weeks after diagnosis but when I arrived at Mayo I had a big hematoma in my L breast from the MRI guided needle biopsy that I had in my hometown. Because of that huge hematoma they said they had to wait for surgery because that hematoma could hide something in the pathology that could dictate my treatment. I was so disappointed that I had to wait! They said I had to wait 5 more weeks for the hematoma to clear. They said it was ok to wait because my Ki67 score was 5% which is low. That test shows aggressiveness of the tumor. Did you have the Ki67 test? You can look in your pathology report to see if you did. If the score is 15% or over it shows it's more aggressive and you would benefit from chemo. Those extra 5 weeks of waiting were difficult but I figured I was at one of the best places to treat breast cancer and they would know what was best. So my bilateral mastectomy was 11 weeks after my diagnosis. During those 5 weeks of waiting, besides a whole lot of prayer, I started doing what I call Optimistic Self Talk every single day for 15 minutes. ( I wrote about it already on this site). I lay on my back, eyes closed, palms up and before the surgery I would repeat over and over " Love, Light, Optimism, Healing and Wellness. My tumors are shrinking, my lymph nodes are staying clear, the surgery will be successful, I will be well and healthy.etc. Optimistic phrases like that. I would set my phone timer for 15 minutes and keep repeating those phrases over and over till the 15 minute was up. It helped me so, so much. I still do it everyday but now I repeat the Love, Light phrase plus "I am staying in remission, I am staying free of cancer and I am staying free of rogue cancer cells. All is well in my body, I am just fine, Thank You for my healing and healthy body. "
I read a lot about the mind body connection so I believe this really helps us. I did read is that it's best to have your surgery within 12 weeks of diagnosis if possible. I hope you will get you surgery date very soon. You can try calling your Dr.'s office every couple of days. As my Mom used to say The squeaky wheel gets the grease." Sending Love, Healing and Wellness Wishes your way. ❤️

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