Just found out I have prostate cancer...

Posted by jeb0505 @jeb0505, Sep 12, 2023

I'm 51, and for the past 2 years, i've been getting my PSA levels checked about every 6 months. In December 2021, my PSA numbers were 'elevated' so the doc took notice (i tested at 4.7, the doc said it should be around 3.5). So i tested again in Feb, 2022 and the number had dropped to 4.3. Great news, i thought, so we tested again in July, 2022, and the level was a calming 3.6. Next test, in December 2022, was 4.1... then, out of nowhere (June, 2023), i found myself at 6.6 and have since been more and more concerned that this might be cancer. Prostate exam suggested that it was possible, followed by an ultrasound that was 'inconclusive'... followed by one of the most unpleasant experiences of my 51 years... the biopsy (the recovery was worse than the procedure by far).

I got my results last week, showing adenocarcinoma in the right lateral base (60%) and the right lateral mid (1%) both having a gleason score of 3+3=6.

Though my results are that i am in a Gleason grade 1, which i have learned is the most favorable, it's still VERY concerning for me... Especially considering i'm barely into my 50's.

There is so much information on the internet, not all of it great, so i've been trying my best to get accurate information from reliable sources, which is what brought me to the Mayo.

I've decided to do nothing for now (Watchful waiting/Active Surveillance; getting PSA tests every 3 months)... I'm curious if others would agree with this approach.

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Prostate Cancer Support Group.

Woth a 3-3 I would do exactly what you are doing which is watching it carefully. Mayo is the place with great expertise and systems to diagnose when further treatment is needed. For now, if I were you, I would be doing a whole lot of internet research so that you know what you are the doctors are talking about. Good luck.

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@southgeorgia

I agree, too, but it is an individual choice. I am 62, Gleason 3+3, and most recent PSA was 4.8. I had my biopsy (locally) back in February and my immediate reaction was to have surgery. I was referred to Mayo and, after Consulting with the doctor there I went down for a series of test, including an MRI. Based on those results, I am also in active surveillance. In addition, I found out my prostate is enlarged to the point of impeding, urine flow, so I am scheduled to have a HoLep procedure this month… there’s a book I found recommended here in the forums called Surviving Prostate Csncer I can’t recall the author’s name off the top of my head, but it was very informative!
Again, it is an individual choice. Take care.

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I also had a very large prostate, 120 grams before my 5 proton radiation treatment and I believe I am actually flowing better now than before the radiation.

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jeb0505: As suggested by a couple of folks here, you might want to get a decipher test (evaluates level of aggression) and another consultation or two, outside your current institution, preferably a center of excellence. I had a 3+4 and a 3+3 and was 69 at the time last year. Out of the 5 radiation oncologists I spoke with, all of them definitively used the Decipher test as an indicator. Given the changes in your PSA, the additional consultation and Decipher test might also help you feel a bit more comfortable with your decision, either way.

You will find that though the doctors have dedicated their lives to helping people with cancer, doctors are not precise about the timing of any growth that occurs and there are natural biases related to treatment suggestions. The Walsh book that was suggested by others here also noted the bias.

For me, I wanted the cancer taken care of because the concept of monitoring meant that every 3 months I would be worrying about whether it had spread to a place outside of the prostate that would require hormone or chemotherapy treatments that might impact me forever or even a couple of years . My brother waited too long, in my non doctor opinion, and he had radiation and is still on Lupron and desperately trying to get off because of the side effects and he went to Weill Cornell in NY city for his diagnosis and treatment.

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I was in a similar situation, but had a GS or 7 (4/3). I was 56 (healthy, active, positive life attitude, etc.) last year and was shocked when diagnosed with prostate cancer. For me, I disagree with watchfully waiting for the cancer to grow and potentially metastasize. I always use the analogy of standing on a train track and seeing a train coming a mile down the tracks - Why not get off the tracks prior to the train getting closer? Your cancer is probably contained presently, and to wait for it to grow and potentially spread seems risky to me. However, I am someone that is focused on wanting/praying for 30+ more years of cancer free life and I am not concerned with short term pain or inconvenience to possibly rid myself of the cancer that was growing within me. I went with the most aggressive treatment form - Radical prostatectomy that allowed for post operation pathology of prostate, seminal vesicles and nine removed lymph nodes. Thankfully all were clear - This does not guarantee cancer free life, but is a positive indicator.

If you decide to address your cancer, please do your research and go to a center of excellence and pick a doctor that is the best you can find. I went to Mayo-Rochester. Excellent experience!!

Best of luck with your decision,

Jim

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@jc76

I agree with harvey44. I too would not wait. But we are all individuals and whether you can deal with anxiety, worry and the risks associated with "wait and see" to the risks of each treatments that are available. For me I did not want to worry but address and deal with the prostrate cancer diagnosis. I could have done wait and see but it was not recommended by the two consultations I had even though I had a Gleason only 1 biopsy that was 3+4 and the others at 3+3. After the biopsies I had a test called Decipher test which came back low risk.

But having said that you will read that 1 in 6 men will be diagnosed with prostrate cancer. And that eventually all will get it if you live long enough. There are histories of those who chose to wait and had excellent long term results and those that waited and PSA rose and had to treat. Early stages are the most easy to treat along with best cure rates and outcomes.

I think multiple consultation with highly recognized medical providers is best recommendation I can give as it is what I did along with extensive research. I had every test available (MRI, biopsies, CT, bone scan, PET scan, Decipher, and another test with a contrast injection I had not heard others have done).

The hormone treatment was recommended at first by first consultation and then changed saying not needed due to Decipher test results and to radiation treatment only. Hormone treatments don't kill the cancer. They only help stop the growth of it as prostrate cancer feeds of testosterone.

I have PTSD anxiety/panic disorder that medication and psychology has made the condition something minor but pops up with stress and worry and cancer diagnosis really affected it. So you can see each individual is different in how they feel and what treatments they chose.

I am 76, have heart failure (diagnosed 23 years ago), Pacemaker/ICD device (last 17 years) but I am an extensive exerciser and do Sprint Triathlons. It is why it is so hard to give advice as everyone is different and how they deal with a cancer diagnosis. Heck when I was going to Mayo Clinic decades ago PSA testing had become "do you want one." Now is back to you need it and now even at an early age.

Treatments have evolved with many new excellent type radiation treatments along with new medications. My advice would be to seek at least two consultations and be frank and honest with the oncologist about your worries, what you are willing to undergo, risks associated with waiting and risk associated with treatments.

Good luck in whatever you choose.

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What a great post. Insightful for all of us who have PC. I had my surgery RP. Best decision I have made in my 70 years on Earth!!!

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It has been said many times before but time is your friend here.

Watch your PSA now that you have a reading and just takes things from there.

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From my reading I would say you have picked a good option. My doctor never named my cancer, but my Gleason Score was very aggressive, 4+4. So I had a RP done. One thing: Get the book. I copied the cover. Read and know how to survive the cancer. There is all kinds of info, but THE BOOK, Patrick Walsh's Surviving Prostate Cancer" will help you make decisions based on years of treating prostate cancer. And, use Mayo Clinic or reputable sites.

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Watchful waiting is probably the best thing to do right now. My guess, after 15 years of worry about WW effect is that anything you do other than great diet, careful exercise, plenty of sleep, and keeping up with current medical practices will probably do more harm than good. I was diagnosed about 20 years ago, and at 83 years old, I can outrun my 25 great grandchildren for short distances. Of course, I was active in sports for about 60 years, although I have many forms of cancer, including MM, Raynaud's, encephaly, Limb Girdle Muscular Dystrophy r23, basal C on ears and eye sockets, etc. So live as near as possible to the life you want to live. oldkarl

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@jeb0505, I hope that you have seen and been able to digest all the helpful responses you received from fellow members who have walked this path a few steps ahead of you.

I wanted to check in. How are you doing?

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Hello Colleen,

I'm doing alright, considering. I do this i want to get a second opinion about my results, treatment options, etc.

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