Thanks for all of this info Lori. Very interesting, about the clinic and the new insight into kratom, perhaps I can get Linda to try the pills. She may balk at the addictive aspect but we will discuss. What that gentleman in Riverwoods Illinois is doing, administering the scrambler therapy, is what had occurred to me when I first read about it, how if someone could come up with the $100K to purchase the unit and go through the training, they could have a built in career for as long as they wanted it. And how rewarding, to be able to actually help lots of folks with chronic pain. And if more people did that then perhaps the availability as well as the price of the therapy would improve and it would become more accessible to more people. By the way, I know that area; for 35 years my parents lived just 6-7 miles from there in Glencoe Ill. and I spent my high school years there. Perhaps someday we will go visit Mr. Black regarding the Calmare therapy. Thanks again Lori! -Hank