Dialysis - Stories and Questions

Posted by Ginger, Volunteer Mentor @gingerw, Feb 16, 2023

At some point, almost all chronic kidney disease patients will hear "dialysis". Sometimes it is a welcomed treatment, often it strikes fear into our very core. So many questions, so many things to consider. For many of us, it is another treatment option, and a step towards transplant. For others, dialysis is the endgame.

Let's share our experiences, let's ask those hard questions. There are generalities, but we each have our own story. Let's learn and support each other!
Ginger

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Kidney & Bladder Support Group.

@gingerw

@lpw, here is the post you had in the Transplant List thread. I think it will be better answered here and get more exposure to members currently on or previously on dialysis, to get their input!

"My husband did dialysis for six weeks two years ago and now, his numbers indicate that he needs to have dialysis again. He is preparing to go on peritoneal dialysis and I plan to help him. I wonder how frequently peritonitis happens and what special precautions one should take to prevent this from happening?
What happens if you have to miss a night of treatment? Did you have any aftereffects from this dialysis like you did from the other? How long did it take for you to feel better? Thank you so much for any time you give to my queries."

When your husband had dialysis those years ago, what modality was it? Hemodialysis using a fistula or graft, or peritoneal using a catheter in the abdomen? Was it prior to a transplant and then discontinued after a successful procedure? Does he have a failed transplant that requires a possible second transplant?

Very cool to read you will be your husband's care partner. Make sure you attend all his training sessions, so you know exactly what he will be going through. I find that is critical. My husband attended some of my training sessions, but felt because he had done PD from 2011-2016 he didn't need to be trained. We found there were different techniques involved. His experience was he had used a cycler at night, where I do manual exchanges during the day. Your trainer will stress the aspect of keeping things clean to help eliminate contamination, including hands/exit site, equipment, supplies, area, etc.

Here is what Fresenius Kidney Care has to say about peritonitis and PD: https://www.freseniuskidneycare.com/treatment/peritoneal-dialysis/peritonitis#:~:text=Peritonitis%20most%20often%20starts%20when,common%20and%20can%20happen%20easily.

Missing a session on PD can have different effects for each patient. A lot depends on the prescription as set forth by your clinic. For me, my prescription is "light", and I skip a session maybe once a month. I know a lady who was told by her dr it was okay to skip 2 sessions a week.

As far as long before you feel better, it could be within a week of getting his blood cleaner with the dialysis. Remember, the PD is in addition to whatever function remains in his kidneys, not a replacement for the function. They are seeing that the higher eGFR is when dialysis is started, the better the outcome. I personally started at 14%, and have rebounded up to 16%.

Thank you for reading my lengthy post! Any further questions for me or any of us?
Ginger

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Thank you Ginger! No transplant, but viral pneumonia that progressed rapidly into a kidney emergency. Before hospitalization, he maintained 30% kidney function. A port was surgically implanted in his shoulder area for hemodialysis in the hospital. The dialysis was continued in a Davita clinic three days a week for six weeks. His kidney function improved to 20% and stayed close to that until about three months ago. We have had one day of training and felt the Davita nurse was knowledgeable and a top notch teacher. Thank you again, Linda

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@gingerw

Well, replying to my own post now. LOL

I did some in-depth research about the collagen based kidney disease I have, called Type III Collagenofibrotic Glomerulopathy. It is ultra-rare, and no research monies being used since there are so few patients with it. Type III Collagen, it turns out, is a pretty interesting creature, and can have the effect of producing fibrin within the peritoneal cavity. Voila! the answer to my being a "fibrin factory".

When I presented this evidence to my dialysis clinic, we all agreed that adding a second session every other day hours after the first session ["it's just one bag, dwell for an hour", but still it would add almost another 3 hours start to finish!] would not be fruitful. We did modify my heparin to 2cc per day, injected into the first bag. Oh, and I did indeed do that second session for 2 weeks, what a chore!

Glad I took the "bull by the horns" and advocated for myself, once again.
Ginger

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Hello I was wondering how to get in contact with with questions about gfr numbers on kidneys.

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@jessgarduno30

Hello I was wondering how to get in contact with with questions about gfr numbers on kidneys.

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@jessgarduno30 What questions do you have? What is your current eGFR?
Ginger

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@gingerw

@jessgarduno30 What questions do you have? What is your current eGFR?
Ginger

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Ok new to this chat thing so took a moment to figure it out. Lol. My numbers started at 97' 93' 111' 112 since 2021

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@gingerw

@jessgarduno30 What questions do you have? What is your current eGFR?
Ginger

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Ok so maybe I don't have this figured out. Is there a email link.

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@gingerw

@jessgarduno30 What questions do you have? What is your current eGFR?
Ginger

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Ok' I give up this site isn't for me. :/ I can't seem to tell if I am doing this wrong because I can't seem to get any responses.

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@jessgarduno30 welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. Please don’t give up on this site. There’s lots of groups and discussions with a wealth of information about any number of health related topics. There is so much available here that it can be a bit overwhelming at first. I personally am somewhat terrified of technology. What little I know is that you have recently joined Mayo Clinic Connect, chosen the group Kidney & Bladder and the discussion regarding Dialysis. You have questions about GFR. One of the moderators @colleenyoung or one of the volunteer mentors @johnbishop who is a whiz with technology may be able to give you some tips, links, email etc. towards using this site and making it a better experience for you. For example there are a variety of options to pick from regarding how you want to receive notifications. If you feel you aren’t receiving any responses perhaps a different option would be better for you. Will you post again to indicate that you’ve gotten my response?

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@jessgarduno30

Ok' I give up this site isn't for me. :/ I can't seem to tell if I am doing this wrong because I can't seem to get any responses.

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Hi @jessgarduno30, Looking back at both discussions you started along with your posts in those discussions and a few more, I think the problem you may be having keeping track is because the 2 discussions you started were pretty much on the same topic with slightly different titles. You can always see your previous posts by clicking on your member name and going to your profile and settings. You can also go there by clicking on the person icon at the top right of the Connect window. Here's the direct link to your profile and settings where you can find the 2 discussions you started and if you click Comments at the left it will show you all of your previous posts with then newest first - https://connect.mayoclinic.org/member/00-5c381ec25c300c3c357685/.

If you would like to have the two discussions merged together so that it's easier to see who has responded to each post, please let me know and I will request that a moderator merge the two discussions.

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@johnbishop

Hi @jessgarduno30, Looking back at both discussions you started along with your posts in those discussions and a few more, I think the problem you may be having keeping track is because the 2 discussions you started were pretty much on the same topic with slightly different titles. You can always see your previous posts by clicking on your member name and going to your profile and settings. You can also go there by clicking on the person icon at the top right of the Connect window. Here's the direct link to your profile and settings where you can find the 2 discussions you started and if you click Comments at the left it will show you all of your previous posts with then newest first - https://connect.mayoclinic.org/member/00-5c381ec25c300c3c357685/.

If you would like to have the two discussions merged together so that it's easier to see who has responded to each post, please let me know and I will request that a moderator merge the two discussions.

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Hello' thanks for three reply. I started trying to contact one of the volunteers on her chat group. And I don't do chat groups or know how the whole thing worked. So I keep trying to get on contact with her. So when I started the first post I filled our the questions it asks to start one not knowing how it was going to be worded and it didn't think it made sense after it posted. Then I kept trying to talk to the one volunteer. Now unfortunately it hasn't been working well. I say what's going g on and she keeps asking what's my concern. And I keep saying it. So not sure these chats are meant for me to get help with. Agin I love all the support everyone gets form this and all the information that everyone has but I haven't been as lucky.

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@jessgarduno30

Hello' thanks for three reply. I started trying to contact one of the volunteers on her chat group. And I don't do chat groups or know how the whole thing worked. So I keep trying to get on contact with her. So when I started the first post I filled our the questions it asks to start one not knowing how it was going to be worded and it didn't think it made sense after it posted. Then I kept trying to talk to the one volunteer. Now unfortunately it hasn't been working well. I say what's going g on and she keeps asking what's my concern. And I keep saying it. So not sure these chats are meant for me to get help with. Agin I love all the support everyone gets form this and all the information that everyone has but I haven't been as lucky.

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Thank you @johnbishop for jumping in. I like your suggestion of merging the 2 discussions. @jessgarduno30 you refer to “chat groups” and say that you “don’t do chat groups”. I don’t either. In fact I’m not even sure what they are. In Mayo Clinic Connect there Groups that refers to a broad category such as Kidney & Bladder. Within that are Discussions that narrows the field to a particular topic. This Discussion is “Dialysis - Stories and Questions”. You started 2 other Discussions largely focusing on GFR. You said you “started trying to contact one of the volunteers on her chat group”. In the 3 discussions you posted in 2 Volunteer Mentors have responded: @gingerw and myself, @cehunt57; also @johnbishop regarding using Mayo Clinic Connect. For the most part members join Mayo Clinic Connect, choose Groups to be involved with and participate/post in Discussions that are of interest to him/her. It is a sharing of experiences & information to support each other in our health journeys. We don’t diagnose or prescribe because we aren’t (and can’t take the place of) professional providers. It is possible to send a member or mentor a personal / private message. I don’t remember how at the moment and generally don’t use it often because that limits the benefits to the other members.

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