Giving hope: 5 year celebration pancreatic cancer-free

Thank you Markymark for that info. My husband had 7 rounds of fulfironox, which didn't reduce the tumor, so dr switched him to the Gem/Abraxine. (They also told him because he was young (59) and healthy that the "more agreesive" chemo would be better for him.) I believe he gets only the two drugs, not including cisplatin. He's had 3 of those Gemcidibine treatments and is totally wiped out afterwards for days, and doesn't want to eat much. He tolerated the Fulfirinox much better; he ate better and wasn't so fatigued. I realize the longer you are on chemo, it's a cumulative effect, so maybe that's a factor. Were you more tired on the GEM/ABRax treatment? He is sleeping all the time, and the treatments are every week, with one week in between, where as the Fulfirinox was every two weeks. Also, his blood work showed problems last week with raised levels of ALT, AST and bilirubin. Dr. thinks there is blockage in bile ducts and ordered MRI to be done next week. He had a stent placed in Jan to open up the ducts. Has anyone else experienced this? Could his stent (metal) be damaged or moving around? He feels very full and cannot eat much. Also, his back pain has increased. Anxious to get that MRI done and hopefully find solution to pain.

Hi,
I did 12 rounds of Folferinox, one week on and following week off, for my stage 1 PC. CT scan showed cancer cells had invaded my liver and elevated CA 9-19 as well. So, Folferinox failed in stopping metastatic disease. I was switched to the Gemzar/Abraxane regimen, three weeks on and one week off. The fatigue is definitely more pronounced with this new regimen, and I begged off for the fifth treatment because I didn't feel up to it. The side effects have been cumulative for me, because the initial treatments seemed ok, and I felt ready for the next one, until number five. I only had to have one Folferinox treatment cancelled because of feeling more unwell than usual. Everyone reacts differently, but I hope my experience is helpful.

@k13 , It's all kind of a blur now (13 months since I stopped Folfirinox after 12 biweekly treatments, and 4.5 months / 10 rounds since starting the biweekly Gemcitabine + Abraxane + Cisplatin).

I think they're about the same in terms of overall impact on me. I probably felt crappier on the Folfirinox, but for shorter periods of time (2-3 days) than with GAC (3-4 days). Fatigue and digestive issues (reflux, metallic taste) have been common with me in both, but Abraxane added the near-instant hair loss.

My local oncologist thought the 3-drug combo (GAC) would be especially nasty with the addition of Cisplatin, but I'm receiving the chemo at a different center, and maybe the pre-med recipe is better there.

I've been pretty lucky / blessed with both to gain & maintain my weight & appetite for at least 10 good days out of 14. 🙂

@k13 , It's all kind of a blur now (13 months since I stopped Folfirinox after 12 biweekly treatments, and 4.5 months / 10 rounds since starting the biweekly Gemcitabine + Abraxane + Cisplatin).

I think they're about the same in terms of overall impact on me. I probably felt crappier on the Folfirinox, but for shorter periods of time (2-3 days) than with GAC (3-4 days). Fatigue and digestive issues (reflux, metallic taste) have been common with me in both, but Abraxane added the near-instant hair loss.

My local oncologist thought the 3-drug combo (GAC) would be especially nasty with the addition of Cisplatin, but I'm receiving the chemo at a different center, and maybe the pre-med recipe is better there.

I've been pretty lucky / blessed with both to gain & maintain my weight & appetite for at least 10 good days out of 14. 🙂

Hi!
My FNP was really on my side and kept on until she found my lipase levels were super high and a CT scan confirmed I had pancreatic cancer. I was at Mayo within 2 weeks and they had me go back home and do chemotherapy until it had shrunk enough to do surgery, which I had at mayo May 3, 2018. I had a distal pancrectomy and a splenectomy followed by more chemotherapy and every scan since has been great!! Mine was caught very early, hence listening to your body!! Good luck!!

On June 12, 2012 I had my first CT scan which imaged a tumor in the head of my pancreas. On 6/15-a Friday, I met the surgeon who informed me I was eligible for the Whipple and wanted to perform it first thing the next morning which was Saturday. He said I had a very aggressive tumor and needed to have surgery sooner than later. I asked to do it on Monday (6/18/2012) morning and when opened on the OR table, it was found the tumor was in contact with the portal vein and invaded the vascular wall. Surgery continued requiring portal vein resection.

One week later a CT was done to check if I had an intestinal blockage. So it was 13 days after the initial scan. No blockage but the radiologist noted several areas in my liver that resembled metastatic disease. A liver biopsy confirmed it. The metastasis did not happen in 13 days. It was already there as micrometastatic disease unable to be detected because a CT and MRI have a sensitivity level of a certain size. If below that level of detection sensitivity, then it won’t show on imaging. That/includes PET scans as well. So I was already stage IV when I was first seen by a specialist and had the Whipple. Had it been large enough to be detected, the Whipple likely would not have been performed.

The Whipple went smoothly. It took nine hours. Portal vein resection was mentioned in my surgical report as challenging. The report also noted 11/22 lymph nodes positive, poorly differentiated cellular dysplasia and high grade. Coming from a profession as a researcher in clinical cancer, immunology and stem cell research, I understood the definition of NED (No Evidence of Disease) and MRD (minimal residual disease), I knew it was going to take more than 12 cycles of Folfirinox to not only achieve NED, but to eliminate MRD as well. Otherwise the likelihood of MRD remaining would likely lead to reoccurrence at some point.

I advocated for aggressive chemo. There was no set number of cycles. It would be as much as my body could tolerate or until no more shrinkage was observed-whichever came first. I did Folfirinox and 5-FU/Leucovorin in alternating groups of six over 24 months. I had a total of 24 cycles of full dose Folfirinox of the original unmodified, 20% higher concentration and 22 cycles of 5-FU for a combined total of 46. It was done this way to hopefully lessen the impact of getting permanent neuropathy. It ended up working.

I achieved NED at the end of the 24 months. Besides frequent surveillance, I get ctDNA testing every 3 months. It was part of a clinical trial I was on targeting a BRCA gene mutation using a PARP inhibitor. BRCA mutations results in an increased lifetime risk of developing a new primary cancer. So even if all traces of metastatic disease are eliminated, I still had an increased risk.

I have been informed by a number of pancreatic cancer oncologists and surgical oncologists I am cured. Scans and ctDNA measurements have always been negative. They also added that there is increasing reports of patients achieving cure with Folfirinox. But there is possibly another component in patients that achieve long-term survival that the NCI refers to as exceptional responders. Often it is observed in this cohort that NK-T (Natural killer) cells are able to deeply penetrate solid tumors protected by a dense fibroblast-stromal layer. Why this happens is not yet elucidated but is being investigated. It is assumed I had this effect. When I was asked if I would provide a biopsy specimen of what was left of my tumors (likely car tissue), what was then barely visible was too small to biopsy. Today I have no evidence of tumors. So it will remain a mystery if the NKT cells did indeed penetrate the tumors to help destroy them along with the aggressive chemo.

June 18th will be the 11th anniversary of the Whipple. I am alive, well and thriving and very active as a patient advocate and mentor. I’m glad I advocated for the aggressive chemo and that I was able to tolerate it well. I feel,it played a significant role in becoming cured of being stage IV.

that is wonderful! May I ask where your cancer was? I find this forum so helpful because it's so hopeful. My husband was just diagnosed with pancreatic cancer - he had a distal pancreatectomy and splenectomy. He was diagnosed at stage 2b. I look at this forum for insight as to how others are doing/coping.
Thank you

lisn,

Can you and husband relocate to live near a center of excellence?

IMO, this is very important.