Do I have polymyalgia rheumatica?

Posted by charlotte61 @charlotte61, Jul 24, 2023

Hi everyone -- I'm new here. I'm a 62-year-old woman who up until a month ago was fit, active, and pain-free. Then I started getting pain and stiffness in the backs of my thighs, which I at first put down to simple muscle strain. But the pain and stiffness have since spread to my hips and knees, shoulders, neck and arms. Exhaustive online research suggests I may have polymyalgia rheumatica -- it's what my symptoms most closely point to. I feel as if I have aged 20 years in one month, and am feeling very depressed and anxious. This just isn't me. I finally got in to see my doctor this morning, and he has ordered an array of blood tests. He also prescribed Tylenol 3 to help with the pain, since OTC pain relievers aren't really doing the job. My pain and stiffness are at their worst in the morning -- some days, I can barely get out of bed and get dressed. Often, the pain eases as the day goes on, but on other days -- including today -- it doesn't let up much. I don't know how long I'll have to wait for a diagnosis -- depending on what the bloodwork shows, if anything, I may have to go for imaging tests and might have to wait weeks for those. In the meantime, what do you do to help relieve your pain so that you can function? I know that prednisone is the typical treatment for this disease, but until I have been given a firm diagnosis, that won't be an option. Thanks in advance for any advice!

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@marymckeith

Does anyone have any experience with acupuncture? I find I cannot tolerate sugar, salt or I have a reaction.

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I did acupuncture regularly for neuropathy (my dad has PMR, which is why I follow this group). I also have an inflammatory arthritis.

I can’t really say for certain that it helped with my pain and I definitely wouldn’t use it as a replacement for treatment for an inflammatory condition like PMR, but I did always feel exponentially better and uplifted after a session. It was deeply relaxing and that on its own can help with pain over time. It really helped me relax my body and get the tension out, which can really build up with chronic pain.

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Thanks. I am considering it. I would just like to give it a try but know I would still need my other meds,
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@marymckeith

Thanks. I am considering it. I would just like to give it a try but know I would still need my other meds,
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I think it’s totally worth trying. If you’re concerned about the needles, it didn’t hurt. Sometimes it hurts, but only for a second if your acupuncturist recommends points in the feet or hands (there are more nerve endings).

I only stopped going because I got overwhelmed with other appointments for chronic conditions and just life. I wish I could do it every week like I used to.

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Thanks so much for the info,

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Your symptoms do indicate PMR. Prednisone does work in most cases, though not all. PMR has many puzzling variations. My own experience, like yours, was of rapid onset of the condition with spreading, bilateral pain which was and is at its worst in the early hours of the morning. At first I couldn’t believe I would be able to get through the day. My first response was a combination of anger and despair because I had always enjoyed daily and intense physical activity. The only thing that really helped was the realisation that the pain diminished with exercise and that I could still run and lift weights for example, though at a reduced level of performance.
As I said, PMR is variable in its manifestations. In my own case I take some comfort - after 18 months of it - that PMR is just pain and that once I get moving I can do just about everything I used to do and that the pain diminishes with activity and occasional resort to Panadol-Osteo.
Prednisone didn’t help in my case; I’ve finished an 18 month taper from 15mg daily. (The bad side effects were minimal). But it does seem to work for most people. Best wishes for your journey with this strange disease.

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@charlotte61

Thanks Debbie -- and I'm glad the 25 mg is working for you! I agree that taking things one day at a time is the best approach. Looking ahead and wondering how many months or years this is going to last is just too overwhelming.

I think it's just going to take some time for me. I was feeling very discouraged yesterday, but today was my best day yet. Still stiff and sore in the mornings, but this is the first day in almost six weeks that I didn't have significant leg pain. So maybe it's just taking the 15 mg of Prednisone a little longer to work. Given the side effects of long term Prednisone use, I really don't want to go over 15 mg a day if I can help it. I already have osteoporosis and don't want to make it worse. I'm trying to watch what I eat, get some light exercise every day -- and most importantly, keep my stress levels low, as stress seems to really make it a lot worse. Deep breathing exercises and meditation are very helpful. I used to go swimming at the local pool before the pandemic, and am thinking of returning -- they have a nice warm therapy pool there that I think would be very helpful.

I hope things continue to go well for you!

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I'm 79 with "extreme risk" osteoporosis and really didn't want to use prednisone, but the pain was too bad. Also was fearing the possible side condition and that the PMR might spread to my legs rather than being restricted to my upper arms and shoulders. Then I was given 15mg Prednisone, and waited. And waited. On the second day there was slight improvement in morning pain, and that was it. I'd made a bargain with the Devil, and gotten nothing from it.

It was a holiday weekend, so more than a week until I could reach my doctor. She upped the dose to 25mg on July 3rd. Next day, no change. Morning after that, there was noticeable additional flexibility and less pain. Two weeks later, I felt pretty much normal other than morning stiffness, and tapering has started. Last week I spoke to a city rheumatologist on the phone (July 27). She wants me tapering off as quickly as possible and spoke about methotrexate. But this was the thing that most surprised me. I made a comment "I guess I'll never mow the lawn again." (My assumption had been that PMR was triggered by over-doing.) Her response: "You're okay now. Go for it. Use it or lose it". At the start of the month I had to wear jeans because I couldn't handle the elastic in sweatpants. Couldn't pull up blankets. Slid out of bed because I couldn't use my arms. Oh.

So... my guess is that if you take a larger dose now, you might be done with prednisone sooner and you'd feel a whole lot better. No guarantees, of course, but right now I'm downright optimistic.

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@emaureen

I'm 79 with "extreme risk" osteoporosis and really didn't want to use prednisone, but the pain was too bad. Also was fearing the possible side condition and that the PMR might spread to my legs rather than being restricted to my upper arms and shoulders. Then I was given 15mg Prednisone, and waited. And waited. On the second day there was slight improvement in morning pain, and that was it. I'd made a bargain with the Devil, and gotten nothing from it.

It was a holiday weekend, so more than a week until I could reach my doctor. She upped the dose to 25mg on July 3rd. Next day, no change. Morning after that, there was noticeable additional flexibility and less pain. Two weeks later, I felt pretty much normal other than morning stiffness, and tapering has started. Last week I spoke to a city rheumatologist on the phone (July 27). She wants me tapering off as quickly as possible and spoke about methotrexate. But this was the thing that most surprised me. I made a comment "I guess I'll never mow the lawn again." (My assumption had been that PMR was triggered by over-doing.) Her response: "You're okay now. Go for it. Use it or lose it". At the start of the month I had to wear jeans because I couldn't handle the elastic in sweatpants. Couldn't pull up blankets. Slid out of bed because I couldn't use my arms. Oh.

So... my guess is that if you take a larger dose now, you might be done with prednisone sooner and you'd feel a whole lot better. No guarantees, of course, but right now I'm downright optimistic.

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That’s the tricky thing… There’s so much fear of the prednisone, but the catch is if one never takes a high enough dose (assuming it’s effective in your variation of PMR) to quash the inflammation driven by the disease, it will potentially drag out longer, causing more complications, impact on quality of life and pose more of a challenge to overcome, especially for the groups who are most at risk of developing it.

It’s really tough to weigh pros and cons, and it is scary, but PMR is one of the few inflammatory arthropathies that has a relatively straightforward and effective treatment. (My dad has PMR, while I have a different inflammatory arthritis. It’s not that I was glad he had it over something else, but I was shocked that on diagnosis there was no confusion over what was the best treatment, unlike in my situation. It made the decision so much simpler.)

The side effects aren’t fun at all, it’s not a benign medication and definitely not ideal, but the pain/inflammation from PMR untreated or sub-optimally treated will exact it’s own price too. The hope is there are ways to mitigate the side effects… My dad takes Fosomax for the risk of osteoporosis, along with calcium, vitamin D and magnesium supplements.

It is still hard to feel boxed in though.

14 months since diagnosis highest dose was 30 mg, and now at 6.25 mg and hopefully dropping…

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PMR usually comes on suddenly, and goes from nothing to very strong within 24 hours. It is usually is strongest in the shoulders and hips.

There are several other autoimmune conditions with similar symptoms, plus some other diseases.

It is important to have a full battery of tests and to include a rheumatologist to get a diagnosis. A second opinion from another rheumatologist may also help.

Prednisone is an extremely powerful anti-inflammatory drug (synthetic cortisol) and will improve many conditions, not just PMR. However, if it does not improve your condition, you probably do not have PMR.

Before I began Prednisone, which was very effective, Tylenol devastated my liver with ALT scores over 100. Anything over 40 is not normal. I switched to ibuprofen.

Both Tylenol and ibuprofen gave similar pain relief - which merely took the edge off of very, very severe nauseating pain that I had 24/7 for weeks.

Prednisone, once started, took most of the pain away and was a tremendous relief from what otherwise was a suicidal situation.

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