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Naturopaths role in treatment of advanced pancreatic cancer care

Posted by masha123 @masha123, Jul 8, 2023

Good afternoon. Had anyone has an experience with the naturopathic oncologist in treatment of advanced stage metastised pancreatic cancer?
1. As a replacement for conventional medicine (I am not planning on doing that, but my girlfriend went with it (not for the pancreatic cancer, but breast cancer, and is trying to get me into their program).

What exactly their treatment of cancer consists of - my understanding is it is IV-dripping into your system extracts of some poisonous plants/materials which are supposed to shrink/kill the tumor?

2. As a concurrent treatment with chemo?

3. As a nutrition and immune system support during chemo? This is the one I am planning to do, but if anyone had a good experience with the first two options, I would be happy to know. I just got diagnosed and did not even start chemo yet, will have my first appt. with oncologist Monday.
Thank you!

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patti303 | @patti303 | Jul 12, 2023
In reply to @masha123 "You know, I simply cannot process it in my brain that somebody normal can say that..." + (show)
@masha123

You know, I simply cannot process it in my brain that somebody normal can say that "this is not cancer" or "just relax", not being a doctor and not having results of biopsy in front of him. This is kind of ...not irresponsible, since they are not responsible for your life, but slightly insensitive and condescending.

Did you take any supplements of that sort when you were going through chemo?

Fans of Keto Diet should leave the claims "no one on Keto ever had cancer" for themselves. Indeed if it were that simple, there would be no cancer patients around. But it is not that simple.

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I was far from home during covid time when I was in chemo. So had very few choices about anything, especially nutrition. I stayed in a "hospital guest house" room for a lot of the time. The weather was cold and oxaliplatin made it too painful to go outside, shop or touch any metal -- so no cooking--and I was too sick to cook anyway. Had very little in the way of nutrition for the first few months (lived on cheese, crackers, Ramen and HoneyNut Cheerios straight from the box plus a few bottles of dreadful tasting protein drinks) until I could get home to a warmer climate and help from my husband and friends. No idea what supplements would have helped at the time other than protein drinks. I still don't know what supplements would help.

Do you know what are some worthwhile supplements? I've just stuck to fruits, veggies and home prepared (from scratch) basic foods as an adult so confess I know nothing about supplements, other than B12 since I don't eat red meats.

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masha123 | @masha123 | Jul 12, 2023
In reply to @patti303 "I was far from home during covid time when I was in chemo. So had very..." + (show)
@patti303

I was far from home during covid time when I was in chemo. So had very few choices about anything, especially nutrition. I stayed in a "hospital guest house" room for a lot of the time. The weather was cold and oxaliplatin made it too painful to go outside, shop or touch any metal -- so no cooking--and I was too sick to cook anyway. Had very little in the way of nutrition for the first few months (lived on cheese, crackers, Ramen and HoneyNut Cheerios straight from the box plus a few bottles of dreadful tasting protein drinks) until I could get home to a warmer climate and help from my husband and friends. No idea what supplements would have helped at the time other than protein drinks. I still don't know what supplements would help.

Do you know what are some worthwhile supplements? I've just stuck to fruits, veggies and home prepared (from scratch) basic foods as an adult so confess I know nothing about supplements, other than B12 since I don't eat red meats.

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Patti,
what a strong woman you are. You were far from home and you went through it...without your family. Apparentlly, it was a good hospital and worth it. I am so happy you are better now. That is remarkable, to tough it out like that.
I do not know much either, I just got a 8 mushroom set of capsules, bitter melon capsules, green tea capsules for energy, Essentiale Forte n300...that is about it.
Have to ask the doctor if i can take it with chemo.

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patti303 | @patti303 | Jul 12, 2023
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@masha123

Patti,
what a strong woman you are. You were far from home and you went through it...without your family. Apparentlly, it was a good hospital and worth it. I am so happy you are better now. That is remarkable, to tough it out like that.
I do not know much either, I just got a 8 mushroom set of capsules, bitter melon capsules, green tea capsules for energy, Essentiale Forte n300...that is about it.
Have to ask the doctor if i can take it with chemo.

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Marsha, it will be interesting learn what you think about your supplements.

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masha123 | @masha123 | Jul 12, 2023
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@patti303

Marsha, it will be interesting learn what you think about your supplements.

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Patti, I got all that stuff on the advice of my girlfriend who is a doctor herself and a survivor of stage 4 breast cancer. She has been taking it during chemo.
She was taking it along with chemo and radiation. She is cancer free now, but she was young, which helped fighting cancer, and I am not))
I do not have an opinion since I just got diagnosed and running around collecting tests and all that. Trying to keep myself together and living one day at a time.

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mayoconnectuser1 | @mayoconnectuser1 | Jul 13, 2023

Do folks really believe doctors - and a highly educated and trained medical science community of millions - would ignore natural products and eating if these products and processes would cure or help their patients?

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masha123 | @masha123 | Jul 13, 2023
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@mayoconnectuser1

Do folks really believe doctors - and a highly educated and trained medical science community of millions - would ignore natural products and eating if these products and processes would cure or help their patients?

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They would not. But I am talking not about food, but about supplements, like 7 Mushrooms, for instance. They can obscure the count of CA 19-9 count. Or they cannot.

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