Body odor without sweat -- Sjogren's Syndrome?

Posted by peabody88 @peabody88, Sep 19, 2018

Hello all. I have been suffering for some chronic health issues since June and am being evaluated for a variety of possible conditions, including Sjogren's Syndrome. One abnormal (at least I think it is, but maybe not) symptom I've noticed is I will experience strong body odor from my armpits, without any sweating. This can happen when I'm just sitting on the couch watching TV. Since Sjogren's affects your exocrine system, I was just curious if this was a possible symptom -- having body odor without sweat. I haven't found anything with a Google Search, but it seems to make logical sense to me so I was curious.

Some other Sjogren's questions I have -- Anyone diagnosed despite a negative SSA/SSB panel? If so, how? Does anyone have any advice/knowledge on differentiating between Sjogren's Syndrome and serious dry mouth/eyes/skin from medication? Love to hear stories/advice from anyone with Sjogren's Syndrome!

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I was diagnosed with Sjogrens at age 28, after the birth of my first child. I haven't experienced the strong body odor you mentioned and, until recently, I hadn't experienced extreme dry eyes and mouth. I am on lots of meds currently and was wondering too, if it's the meds or Sjogrens causing the dryness. One thing I wanted to share with you about the Sjogrens is that after the birth of each child anf through menopause, I had horrible flare ups. It seems hormone fluctuation is a trigger. Wishing you the best.

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I have Sjogren’s Syndrome. The way to definitively diagnose this is through a lip biopsy. I’ve never heard of the odor without sweat thing. I have noticed that in my later years (I’m 64, that I have very little armpit sweat or odor.

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@susanh824

I have Sjogren’s Syndrome. The way to definitively diagnose this is through a lip biopsy. I’ve never heard of the odor without sweat thing. I have noticed that in my later years (I’m 64, that I have very little armpit sweat or odor.

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I suspect I may have Sjogrens because I have dry mouth, dry eyes, dry skin, dry everything ! As well I have pain in my mouth on the tongue and the palate. My dentist says my teeth and gums are in perfect shape. As well I don’t sweat under my arms or on my body when doing moderate exercise. I don’t do high intensity exercise. Has anyone who has been diagnosed with Sjogrens have a similar group of symptoms?

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@willows

I suspect I may have Sjogrens because I have dry mouth, dry eyes, dry skin, dry everything ! As well I have pain in my mouth on the tongue and the palate. My dentist says my teeth and gums are in perfect shape. As well I don’t sweat under my arms or on my body when doing moderate exercise. I don’t do high intensity exercise. Has anyone who has been diagnosed with Sjogrens have a similar group of symptoms?

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Yes, that describes my symptoms. You should go to a rheumatologist to be diagnosed.

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@peabody88

@redhead63 - Fascinating! Thanks for replying to my post! I'm a very complicated situation, because my Sjogren's antibodies AND my ANA have come back negative, and I only had one marker come back slightly positive on the Early Sjogren's panel. In addition, I'm on a plethora of medications for a variety of other health issues, which is what we've always attributed my dry mouth/eyes to. In fact, as I'm writing this, suddenly it seems far-fetched to think that Sjogren's could still be the answer, but the rheumatologist still seems to think it's a possibility, and it sure seemed to "fit" (at least before I started listing the negative test results lol). I'd never read anything about the sweating thing though, but it's something I've noticed and seemed to make sense with Sjogren's, so I was curious if anyone else experienced something like that, in connection with Sjogren's or not.

If you don't mind me asking, how long ago were you diagnosed, and how long A) were you actively pursuing an answer before being diagnosed, and B) how far back do you recognize symptoms now that you know more about it?

Another interesting observation! I've been really struggling with whatever's going on with me for a few months now, so it's been a fair stretch since I've really exercised like that, but I definitely remember my cheeks always getting super red and I've always gotten easily overheated, and I don't think there's usually much sweat involved (although of course that's subjective, and could be an exaggerated memory). Definitely got me curious now!

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You should go on the John’s Hopkins Sjogren site and review the information there. I had a complicated case too where my docs all thought I had a a lot of unconnected issues. But, at Mayo AZ they did autonomic testing (tilt table), a nerve biopsy, and mast cell tests. All came back positive. Apparently in some Sjogrens affects the autonomic system and causes small cell neuroatby. I had red flushing cheeks like you, recently I noticed when I have a flare that no matter what deodorant I use my arm pits stink, I was heat intolerant, I had weird skin neuropathy: my skin would feel like it was sunburned. I see Dr, Goodman in neurology in Az and he discovered all of this. He put me on some meds that have really changed a lot of it. Most docs - even rheumatologists do not get Sjogrens patients whose symptoms go beyond their salivary glands, and eyes - it is out of their wheel house. Hope this helps!

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I had the smelly armpits without sweat thing for over a year and was also tested for Sjögrens, including a salivary gland biopsy- all negative. The smell has gone now (thankfully) and I still don't know what causes it. Maybe diet or supplements?

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@ninette

I had the smelly armpits without sweat thing for over a year and was also tested for Sjögrens, including a salivary gland biopsy- all negative. The smell has gone now (thankfully) and I still don't know what causes it. Maybe diet or supplements?

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I have Sjogrens also with the same odor problems. I wash and wash and the odor comes back 5 minutes later Trying to get in to see Dr Goodman in AZ. Long waiting list. Curious what meds helped after you saw him?

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@keetar

I have Sjogrens also with the same odor problems. I wash and wash and the odor comes back 5 minutes later Trying to get in to see Dr Goodman in AZ. Long waiting list. Curious what meds helped after you saw him?

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I also have related small fiber neuropathy and mast cell activation syndrome with the Sjogrens.

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