At NJH and need to vent

Posted by healthybon @healthybon, Jun 28, 2023

I had very high hopes coming here. The Ambassador screwed up all the dates and ended up planning our first day as the day we fly to Denver. It was a stressful Nightmare. I had to change all the reservations and it cost me a lot of extra money. I figured just be glad you are going and try not to dwell on that. Unfortunately the nightmare has continued. Yes they test a lot. When I saw My doctor ( infectious disease) he was very curt, and hard to talk to. My husband agreed. I told myself if he’s a good dr just focus on that. So he met with me today to go over the ct scan . My pulmonary in Georgia told me I don’t have brochiecstasis , you know, the same guy who said don’t nebulize. I just found out I do have that as well as Mac . The dr was rushed and somewhat irritated with all my questions. It felt uncomfortable . He did want to address the other items not his expertise.
The respiratory therapist is s space cadet who offered NO suggestions. She brought in s different aerobika and left it on the counter overnight. The collect three samples one per day. Second day she handed me the dirty aerobika yo give thenext sample. I figured she would who out a clean one. I said “ I brought one from home I’m not using that dirty one”. Then the BIG LIE CAME AND. I QUOTE”. I told you to wash it. Air dry it and put it in a drawer”. I CAME BACK AT HER AND SAID” no way did you say that to me..”. BELUEVE ME SHE DID NOT SAY IT. She refused to own it and talked to me disrespectfully not to mention that she was ok with me reusing a dirty aerobika with the previous days remnants of saline in it”. She made no effort to talk to me about air clearance tips., which is so important as u all know. I spent a frigging fortune to go here and I’m very disappointed. Boy was I a fool. I’m going to dr swendon ATLANTA great reputation Mac and Brock. Maybe hr’ Ok be more helpful. I could could just cry from deep disappointment. The dr said said it’s up to you to ask the resp therapist questions. Bullshit

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@healthybon

Do you get scared when you get a little breathless. Everyone tells me it’s cause I’m not used to the altitude in denver coming from Georgia. They put me on oxygen,…..the only time at home I feel that way is when my costochondritis ( ribs) act up..but here I feel it much more. All the technicians and nurses say it’s that I’m not acclimated to mike high elevation. Dr Eddy said it’s from the Mac etc…so now I’m scared……who dini believe?

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I do get scared, Bon. But my oximeter is my friend when I'm really freaking out. I sit for a few minutes, breathing evenly, before I attach it to my finger to get a reading. It has never indicated that I'm in a "danger" zone. It helps me plant my feet back in the present and know that anxiety and fear are nipping at my heels. My NJH doctor said that dropping below 90 is cause for concern...not panic...but time to see a doctor. Since they've given you O2, it probably means just what they say - you've not acclimated to the high altitude. Try (as best you can) to relax into it. The extra O2 will make you feel better. It doesn't mean it's a permanent thing. .

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@healthybon

Hi it’s me AGAIN. This is all new to me. Six months along. I’ve been praying and asking God to help me not to be afraid. When I get a little short of breath it freaks me out. Can you give me some mental tips to combat it. When my costochondritis is active (which it is): I get that breathless feeling cause it’s all inflamed in ribs and then it subsides when that calms down. Also the altitude here causes it….so I’m using the oxygen they gave me. I wish I could just ignore it and go about my day. I think I have a fear that I won’t be able to breathe. I wish they had psychological counseling at NJH, cause it’s a big part of all of this..to have this happen to your lungs.
When you get breathless at times how do you deal with it? I have way too much fear………and no one to talk to about it. My life is so different now…….I know I have to have acceptance..it’s the breathing thing that is scaring me……any suggestions? I feel like the people on our blog seem to have adjusted to this aspect..they don’t talk about the fear thing /and the breathing much. Why am I so terrified. Thks Bon

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How I wish I could give you a hug! Yes, fear is pervasive and I'm pretty sure very few folks on this site have a complete handle on it. My saving grace for years was a friend clear across the country who also had the disease. We exchanged whines, fears, joys, and prayers constantly. Then she died. It sent me into a tailspin that I didn't think I could recover from. Three years of almost total isolation and the loss of my touchstone was too much. I had to seek professional help. I see a Christian therapist once a week. While she has no personal knowledge of this disease, she is willing to listen, offer resources, and pray with me.
My suggestion for when the breathing scares you is one, the oximeter, and two, distraction. My panacea for most everything is to play with the dog. She loves me unconditionally, is always happy to have my attention, and shines the love of God through her eyes. I hope this helps you, Bon. I know you're walking down a very bumpy road. But all of us are here for you...just keep writing!

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@tconz

I live in Florida and I tried to get in Mayo and they had no availability so, I chose to go to NJH.

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I live in Jacksonville and was able to get in within six weeks. Sorry that you were not able to get in.

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So interesting that I've been talking to them about coming there but they are not very accommodating when it comes to my tight schedule. Seven days of testing is just not possible and doubtful that is really needed. I appreciate hearing this from you and it confirms that I will be grateful for the help I have right here in Los Angeles.

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@busybeans

How I wish I could give you a hug! Yes, fear is pervasive and I'm pretty sure very few folks on this site have a complete handle on it. My saving grace for years was a friend clear across the country who also had the disease. We exchanged whines, fears, joys, and prayers constantly. Then she died. It sent me into a tailspin that I didn't think I could recover from. Three years of almost total isolation and the loss of my touchstone was too much. I had to seek professional help. I see a Christian therapist once a week. While she has no personal knowledge of this disease, she is willing to listen, offer resources, and pray with me.
My suggestion for when the breathing scares you is one, the oximeter, and two, distraction. My panacea for most everything is to play with the dog. She loves me unconditionally, is always happy to have my attention, and shines the love of God through her eyes. I hope this helps you, Bon. I know you're walking down a very bumpy road. But all of us are here for you...just keep writing!

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I just looked up this blood result I guess I will talk to the Dr Monday. The last three items scare me..can u look it up and tell me what U think?

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@healthybon

I just looked up this blood result I guess I will talk to the Dr Monday. The last three items scare me..can u look it up and tell me what U think?

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Respiratory Culture
Many normal respiratory flora

Gram Stain Evaluation
< 0 Epithelial cells seen per low powered field

Gram Stain Evaluation
< 0 WBC seen per low powered field

Gram Stain Evaluation
Moderate Gram positive cocci in pairs, chains and clusters

Gram Stain Evaluation
Rare Gram negative rods

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@camper16

Bon,
First off, I do hope the Denver visit has improved for you. I have just returned from my 4th trip to Denver in less than 2 yrs. The altitude always bothers me, since I live at sea level in CT. A week visit is not enough for me to get used to it. I feel they downplay this out there. Just being there causes me anxiety! I also grapple with shortness of breath, and as you probably know the anxiety over breathlessness can makes you more breathless, a vicious cycle. I have learned breathing exercises at PT, most of which involve breathing through your nose and consciously slowing down your breathing. This requires effort but I think helps. I have not had other prof help although sometimes I think I might need it.
My experience at NJH reflects what others have said. I had surgery last summer out there at their recommendation, Tbe care was excellent and I believe it was the right thing to do. Coping with the aftermath at a distance has been more difficult.
The truth, as others have said, is that they don't really know the answers often with this disease. But they do know more than most other docs. I decided on this trip I have to find a team closer to home. It's good that you have someone local to see who is knowledgeable. Good luck with everything.
Chris

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Hi Chris
This report is in my portal I see Dr Daley m9nday..I looked it up,and the last three items scare me..can you tell me what you think.
Respiratory Culture
Many normal respiratory flora

Gram Stain Evaluation
< 0 Epithelial cells seen per low powered field

Gram Stain Evaluation
< 0 WBC seen per low powered field

Gram Stain Evaluation
Moderate Gram positive cocci in pairs, chains and clusters

Gram Stain Evaluation
Rare Gram negative rods

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@dulwich

Bon
I well remember my terror at the need for treatment- it is so easy to get very anxious when you hear about the potential side effects. My three years of treatment were not easy but I adapted and life was pretty good in spite of the inconvenience and blips along the way. I do hope that you will allow the doctors and science to guide your treatment decisions and recognize that our emotions can make things worse than the reality
Most people do get some variation on fatigue and GI symptoms, but other side effects are infrequent and medications can be changed or adjusted
About 50% relapse after treatment but not everyone needs to take medication again.
Leaving MAC untreated can also be dangerous if you are at a point where you have symptoms or lung damage is progressing
Please keep an open mind and learn all you can about what will be best in your particular situation.
Good luck with finding clarity and the best path forward

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The last three items on this report scare me, what is your opinion. I’m scheduled with Dr Daley on Monday..I’m scared

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@dulwich

Bon
I well remember my terror at the need for treatment- it is so easy to get very anxious when you hear about the potential side effects. My three years of treatment were not easy but I adapted and life was pretty good in spite of the inconvenience and blips along the way. I do hope that you will allow the doctors and science to guide your treatment decisions and recognize that our emotions can make things worse than the reality
Most people do get some variation on fatigue and GI symptoms, but other side effects are infrequent and medications can be changed or adjusted
About 50% relapse after treatment but not everyone needs to take medication again.
Leaving MAC untreated can also be dangerous if you are at a point where you have symptoms or lung damage is progressing
Please keep an open mind and learn all you can about what will be best in your particular situation.
Good luck with finding clarity and the best path forward

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The last three items on this report scare me, what is your opinion. I’m scheduled with Dr Daley on Monday..I’m scared
Respiratory Culture
Many normal respiratory flora

Gram Stain Evaluation
< 0 Epithelial cells seen per low powered field

Gram Stain Evaluation
< 0 WBC seen per low powered field

Gram Stain Evaluation
Moderate Gram positive cocci in pairs, chains and clusters

Gram Stain Evaluation
Rare Gram negative rods

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@busybeans

How I wish I could give you a hug! Yes, fear is pervasive and I'm pretty sure very few folks on this site have a complete handle on it. My saving grace for years was a friend clear across the country who also had the disease. We exchanged whines, fears, joys, and prayers constantly. Then she died. It sent me into a tailspin that I didn't think I could recover from. Three years of almost total isolation and the loss of my touchstone was too much. I had to seek professional help. I see a Christian therapist once a week. While she has no personal knowledge of this disease, she is willing to listen, offer resources, and pray with me.
My suggestion for when the breathing scares you is one, the oximeter, and two, distraction. My panacea for most everything is to play with the dog. She loves me unconditionally, is always happy to have my attention, and shines the love of God through her eyes. I hope this helps you, Bon. I know you're walking down a very bumpy road. But all of us are here for you...just keep writing!

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Bon, when I was at NJH I was told Walgreens, etc. sell BOOST OXYGEN which is a little bottle of oxygen you just hold up to your mouth and it sprays oxygen into your lungs. It works great and I took it everywhere with me (it fits in your purse). I really didn't use it much but I think it was peace of mind that I had it if needed. Once I got home I ordered it on Amazon.

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