7% Saline Prescription and Medicare Part B payment quandry

Posted by Elle @ellen1944, Jan 28, 2023

My husband is 81, diagnosed with MAC, and has been on the 3-drug regimen for 2.5 weeks. He uses a nebulizer 2XDay with 7% saline.

Problem: Humana won't cover the saline prescription because they say it is covered under Medicare Part B. But, when filling the saline prescription the pharmacist can't get Medicare Part B to work. Our secondary (not supplemental) health insurance Blue Cross/Blue Shield says (thinks?) it needs to be coded as a durable medical, which neither CVS nor Medicap will use. (It seems to me that while the nebulizer is a durable medical; the saline is more a prescription.) In the meantime, we are paying out-of-pocket for a saline prescription the pulmonologist and all others say should be covered under Medicare Part B. Anyone else had this experience? How was it resolved? Many thanks!

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Here's the problem. If your Dr. ordered your nebulizer for you and you got it from some source other than Walgreens or some other nebulizer providing pharmacy, it is really next to impossible to get Medicare to pay. I have spent hours on the phone on this issue. My nebulizer came from some medical supply company and was free via Medicare. That supply company does not provide the solution so....you are left to find it at a pharmacy. Since the pharmacy did not provide the nebulizer they claim it isn't covered (one claimed it was covered if mixed with albuterol). That's my experience anyway. For $10.80 a month, it is not worth more of my time fighting this and Medicare doesn't provide a new nebulizer via anyone for 5 years or so unless maybe it breaks.

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@northland

are you saying Medicare is paying for your sodium chloride?

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Yes, through Walgreens and I have BCBS & Medicare. We have a phenomenal pharmacist at our local Walgreens, and he jumped through all the hoops to get it covered back in 2019. Even told me what the doctor's scrip needed to say. It probably helps that his store is the preferred supplier for several senior residences in our area, so he knows how to handle Medicare issues. When I had trouble getting it covered in Texas during the winter, he told the very inexperienced staff there what to do.
Sue

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@larrydunn

I have struggled with MAC and bronchiectasis on and off for over 25 years, and have gone through 2 extended cycles of the 3-drug protocol. Slightly different each time. I'm not sure I am completely MAC-bacteria free now, but I have been without the worst of the symptoms for a few years now. My pulmonologist has me on a twice per day nebulizer protocol of Albuterol and 7% saline. When this started several years ago, Medicare Part B (not Part D drug coverage) was covering the Albuterol and 7% saline with small copays. A couple of years ago they started refusing to cover the 7% saline, saying it was not a Medicare-approved treatment. My pulmonologist and several pharmacists have appealed to Medicare that this is a standard treatment for bronchiectasis, but were not able to convince them it should be covered. I have been getting one-month supply of the 7% saline (4 ml x 60 vials) at Walgreens for $10.28 using a GoodRX coupon. But just this week, Walgreens, and CVS, have told me the 7% saline 4 ml x 60 vials is "on backorder" and no availability date is given. I am at wits end about this. I just learned about availability via Amazon, though that is 50 packets for about $35, a huge increase. Any suggestions where to turn appreciated. (FYI: I am a 74 y.o. male). Thanks for listening.

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Larry- This is such a frustrating mess. I, like others, have given up trying to get Medicare to pay for saline. I just refilled a 90 day supply of 7% saline at Walgreens in Asheville, NC, using a GoodRx coupon. Perhaps some areas of the country use different suppliers? Good luck. Donna T

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We were never successful in getting Medicare or insurance to pay for Nebulizers or 3% or 7.% saline solutions even with prescriptions. What alternative is there when it is prescribed and pharmacies refuse? Frustrating but not the end of the world for sure!

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@sueinmn

Here is the official Medicare Part B information on saline.
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/7-saline-prescription-and-medicare-part-b-payment-quandry/?pg=1#comment-803092
It's a tough slog to read your way through this, but worthwhile if you want the saline covered in the long term. I believe that the trick might be to get your doc to prescribe a nebulizer, to be secured through Medicare from your pharmacy (I KNOW Walgreens carries the one they cover.) That opens the Part B account, then the scrips are covered through Part B.

Different people make different decisions - some choose to go with GoodRx or pay out of pocket, others push through and get Medicare to cover it. Sometimes you need to change pharmacies - not all have Part B contract with Medicare.

Sue

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Sue,
Can you ask your pharmacy what two code numbers they used?
Thanks,
Harry

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@harrynsc

Sue,
Can you ask your pharmacy what two code numbers they used?
Thanks,
Harry

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I have asked - they will not tell me. But, the required codes a buried in the document I referred to above.
Sue

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Sue,
Thanks. I read it over quickly and there are a lot of codes! Confusing also.
Guess I need to slow down and go over it again....
Harry

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@sueinmn

Here is the official Medicare Part B information on saline.
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/7-saline-prescription-and-medicare-part-b-payment-quandry/?pg=1#comment-803092
It's a tough slog to read your way through this, but worthwhile if you want the saline covered in the long term. I believe that the trick might be to get your doc to prescribe a nebulizer, to be secured through Medicare from your pharmacy (I KNOW Walgreens carries the one they cover.) That opens the Part B account, then the scrips are covered through Part B.

Different people make different decisions - some choose to go with GoodRx or pay out of pocket, others push through and get Medicare to cover it. Sometimes you need to change pharmacies - not all have Part B contract with Medicare.

Sue

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Just to add to your information, I recently read that CVS will no longer bill Medicare Part B for drugs. Donna T

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@donnaturn

Just to add to your information, I recently read that CVS will no longer bill Medicare Part B for drugs. Donna T

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That may be the case for CVS retail pharmacies, but CVS mail order still does so. I just checked on my Levalbuterol and budosenide neb solutions and they are covered. I also know that retail businesses that do not carry the nebulizer in store are not required by Medicare rules to do Part B Rx either.
Sue

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I haven’t tried Mcare for any of this, but I have a thought. I suggest people call their senator or representative for assistance. I lived and worked in a state with a small population and there, senators and congressmen had a staff person to help with federal medical bureaucracy. It sounds like this issue probably affects a lot of people and I’d bet not only those with bronchiectasis. We are paying them to make the government work for us.

I can’t guarantee it’ll work, but people have little to lose-just a few minutes for a phone call. Ask for their medical person to call you back and ask them what the rules are, who should pay and coding info for doc and pharmacy.

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