Do you think benzodiazepines should just be available in large doses? What’s wrong with the smallest doses? Why is making pills in smaller doses a questionable tactic?
Not at all. Maybe I wasn’t clear. I think the drugs, especially the more powerful ones like Klonopin, should be made available at very TINY doses. Many people have to switch over to Valium, which comes in tiny doses, but it’s not easy to cross over for a lot of people. See the chart below. 1 mg Klonopin is a huge amount in my book. We should be able to get Klonopin at 0.125 mg doses at the least.
Valium comes in a 2 mg. tablet. That’s the smallest dose available. Klonopin, Ativan and Valium are all available in liquid form which allows one to get to extremely tiny doses using a dropper. A pill form would be easier but the liquid is very doable. Unfortunately I’m very familiar with the chart you provided.
Not at all. Maybe I wasn’t clear. I think the drugs, especially the more powerful ones like Klonopin, should be made available at very TINY doses. Many people have to switch over to Valium, which comes in tiny doses, but it’s not easy to cross over for a lot of people. See the chart below. 1 mg Klonopin is a huge amount in my book. We should be able to get Klonopin at 0.125 mg doses at the least.
Actually Clonazapam does come in a 0.125 dose. I used it myself from my doctor to taper off. It is difficult for sure but can be done with determination and willpower. It takes time and quite a bit of suffering with extreme anxiety but it is so worth it in the end when you get your life back. I also went for therapy, walked everyday, and stopped caffeine while tapering off. Good luck to everyone attempting to rid your body of these awful drugs❣️Just keep plugging away one day at a time and before you know it it will be over.
Actually Clonazapam does come in a 0.125 dose. I used it myself from my doctor to taper off. It is difficult for sure but can be done with determination and willpower. It takes time and quite a bit of suffering with extreme anxiety but it is so worth it in the end when you get your life back. I also went for therapy, walked everyday, and stopped caffeine while tapering off. Good luck to everyone attempting to rid your body of these awful drugs❣️Just keep plugging away one day at a time and before you know it it will be over.
Right! I’d forgotten about the disintegrating 0.125 tablets. They are not commonly prescribed. Thank you for noting. Still, Klonopin is an extremely potent benzodiazepine, and doctors often say 1mg is a “tiny” dose, which is very misleading. I’m glad you’re off of it. I cannot wait, but it is a very long and arduous journey especially after decades of use. Best of everything to all.
I have exactly what you’re describing. I’m on Clonazapan (Klonopin) and it is a benzo and I’m 69 years old. My psychiatrist gave me a prescription for klonopin. 1/2 mg in the morning and 1 mg at 4 pm.
I recently had to spend 20 days in patient at a local hospital for something unrelated to this.
When I went to the hospital I gave EMS a list of my current medications. The hospital lost my medication list and relied on an older list from 3 years ago. I was not on klonopin then so the hospital refused to give me some of my current medication. Klonopin being one of them.
They gave me lorazepam instead (adavan benzo). At first the adavan helped to relieve me of my Klonopin addiction. Slowly that was not klonopin but adavan. Both benzodiazepines. Adavan started to wane. It stopped from doing its job. I went through extreme withdrawal symptoms that only Klonopin took away.
I admit that I am addicted to klonopin. I can’t even taper off even if it takes a year. I cannot get off klonopin at all. I was a nutcase because they still wouldn’t give it to me. The symptoms are a nightmare. I started bugging the nurses to get me some klonopin. Still, the doctor refused.
I became a person that I didn’t like. I became aggressive and dangerous to others and myself.
Klonopin (and adavan and Xanax) are very dangerous drugs and should not be available to anyone. Benzodiazepines need to be taken off pharmaceutical shelves. It’s a poison.
While Klonopin takes away some of my generalized anxiety disorder known as GAD, it’s not enough for me. I can’t get a dose increase but as soon as I got home from the hospital I took a 1 mg pill and before I knew it. My anxiety level dropped significantly although I became a zombie. That’s what I have to look forward to. (Possibly the rest of my life) I’m 69 so it may no longer make me feel like a zombie when I’m dead. It’s bad.
While losing your balance and being wobbly is probably part of getting old, I believe that benzodiazepines have exacerbated it. And I am light headed and have to use a cane, not because of my legs but because of my klonopin use.
That really is a very dangerous drug. It is only supposed to be used for a short time. I tapered off successfully only after a few months of use but it was a nightmare. If you can power through it it’s so worth it to get your life back. You just have to know you’ll be extremely miserable for a while but then all of a sudden it’s over and you’ll be so glad! You need the help of a doctor who can help you taper though. It’s not an easy process. ❤️
Not at all. Maybe I wasn’t clear. I think the drugs, especially the more powerful ones like Klonopin, should be made available at very TINY doses. Many people have to switch over to Valium, which comes in tiny doses, but it’s not easy to cross over for a lot of people. See the chart below. 1 mg Klonopin is a huge amount in my book. We should be able to get Klonopin at 0.125 mg doses at the least.
I am very fortunate that at 73 I don’t have any problems with walking or balance and I have been taking the same dose of 1mg in the morning and 1mg at night for 35 years. I walked 9 miles yesterday in 30 degree weather and plan on doing the same again today. I have also spent two hours on an elliptical machine in my old fitness center while reading magazines or watching TV. Are there any seniors out there like me?
I would love to hear from them. I can’t be the only one.
I look forward to any and all posts.
I wish everyone the best.
I am very fortunate that at 73 I don’t have any problems with walking or balance and I have been taking the same dose of 1mg in the morning and 1mg at night for 35 years. I walked 9 miles yesterday in 30 degree weather and plan on doing the same again today. I have also spent two hours on an elliptical machine in my old fitness center while reading magazines or watching TV. Are there any seniors out there like me?
I would love to hear from them. I can’t be the only one.
I look forward to any and all posts.
I wish everyone the best.
Dave, I’ve had the same experience as you. I’ve taken the same dosage as you for 30 years. I’m very athletic and am grateful my anxiety is so well managed with talk therapy and Klonopin.
Dave, I’ve had the same experience as you. I’ve taken the same dosage as you for 30 years. I’m very athletic and am grateful my anxiety is so well managed with talk therapy and Klonopin.
So happy to get positive feedback from someone on the site. I recently saw my Primary Care Physician after going through a rigorous stress test with scans of the die they administered to me. The scans were done before and after the treadmill to get my heart rate up. I did extremely well considering my age.
I talked to my doctor regarding the Klonopin she has been describing for me for years and her exact words were “ If it is not broke don’t fix it”. She said she was not worried about me taking the same dosage at all. I guess we are just lucky.
Good luck to you.
I took Klonopin for years to help with sleep and have tapered off until I was off. I was put on something else for sleep but have quit talking that but I cannot sleep without something. Melatonin isn’t working so I’ve been rotating benedryl and Tylenol pm. Has anyone else experienced sleep issues after coming off Klonopin?
Not at all. Maybe I wasn’t clear. I think the drugs, especially the more powerful ones like Klonopin, should be made available at very TINY doses. Many people have to switch over to Valium, which comes in tiny doses, but it’s not easy to cross over for a lot of people. See the chart below. 1 mg Klonopin is a huge amount in my book. We should be able to get Klonopin at 0.125 mg doses at the least.
Valium comes in a 2 mg. tablet. That’s the smallest dose available. Klonopin, Ativan and Valium are all available in liquid form which allows one to get to extremely tiny doses using a dropper. A pill form would be easier but the liquid is very doable. Unfortunately I’m very familiar with the chart you provided.
Actually Clonazapam does come in a 0.125 dose. I used it myself from my doctor to taper off. It is difficult for sure but can be done with determination and willpower. It takes time and quite a bit of suffering with extreme anxiety but it is so worth it in the end when you get your life back. I also went for therapy, walked everyday, and stopped caffeine while tapering off. Good luck to everyone attempting to rid your body of these awful drugs❣️Just keep plugging away one day at a time and before you know it it will be over.
Right! I’d forgotten about the disintegrating 0.125 tablets. They are not commonly prescribed. Thank you for noting. Still, Klonopin is an extremely potent benzodiazepine, and doctors often say 1mg is a “tiny” dose, which is very misleading. I’m glad you’re off of it. I cannot wait, but it is a very long and arduous journey especially after decades of use. Best of everything to all.
That really is a very dangerous drug. It is only supposed to be used for a short time. I tapered off successfully only after a few months of use but it was a nightmare. If you can power through it it’s so worth it to get your life back. You just have to know you’ll be extremely miserable for a while but then all of a sudden it’s over and you’ll be so glad! You need the help of a doctor who can help you taper though. It’s not an easy process. ❤️
I actually was able to get Klonopin at that .125 dose for tapering. It does exist in a tiny tablet that dissolves under your tongue.
I am very fortunate that at 73 I don’t have any problems with walking or balance and I have been taking the same dose of 1mg in the morning and 1mg at night for 35 years. I walked 9 miles yesterday in 30 degree weather and plan on doing the same again today. I have also spent two hours on an elliptical machine in my old fitness center while reading magazines or watching TV. Are there any seniors out there like me?
I would love to hear from them. I can’t be the only one.
I look forward to any and all posts.
I wish everyone the best.
Dave, I’ve had the same experience as you. I’ve taken the same dosage as you for 30 years. I’m very athletic and am grateful my anxiety is so well managed with talk therapy and Klonopin.
So happy to get positive feedback from someone on the site. I recently saw my Primary Care Physician after going through a rigorous stress test with scans of the die they administered to me. The scans were done before and after the treadmill to get my heart rate up. I did extremely well considering my age.
I talked to my doctor regarding the Klonopin she has been describing for me for years and her exact words were “ If it is not broke don’t fix it”. She said she was not worried about me taking the same dosage at all. I guess we are just lucky.
Good luck to you.
I took Klonopin for years to help with sleep and have tapered off until I was off. I was put on something else for sleep but have quit talking that but I cannot sleep without something. Melatonin isn’t working so I’ve been rotating benedryl and Tylenol pm. Has anyone else experienced sleep issues after coming off Klonopin?