Tired of living

Posted by thisismarilynb @thisismarilynb, Apr 17, 2023

When I wake up each morning I am not grateful. For me life is not worth living. I had a miserable childhood and was traumatized by an abusive mother. I finally left home and went far away by myself to try and make a life. To a degree I was successful. I was fortunate to meet a wonderful man and we were married for 59 years before his death. Even so I have never been able to make friends or be comfortable in meeting people. I shrink from going into crowds. Now I am alone. I am 88 years old and am sick and tired of living. The only sure thing I know is that I will not do away with myself.

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oI am not doing too badly. Yesterday I went to Panera Bread for lunch with these two women. Had a half of a tuna sandwich with creamy tomato soup and lemonade, It was good and I had a good time. Today the weather was nice so I took myself out to Marshall's. Was looking for a top but when I got it home, it is the wrong color. Also got a bit of food at Albertson's to tide me over until my friend and I leave on our cruise next Friday. I think I have finally gotten over my allergic reaction to the medication from the dermatologist. Need to get out the suitcase and start packing.

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@thisismarilynb

Yes friendship is nice and so are you for writing to me. I moved far from family but not in shame. They all said you will be back, implying that I would fail. I went with the attitude that I will show them, and I did. But again you are right - keeping inner parent. My mother's shrill voice and hurtful comments are all still right there. I have heard a lot about forgiveness and how it frees you. I just cannot figure it out. Someone once said to me if only I could vomit her out. Yes, if only.

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I see it this way:
1. my parents caused me damage
2. sadly for me they were blind to what they did. And that included endless arguing - once my father threatened to crash the car on the highway with me and my mother in it.
3. But they really had no clue what I was going through.
4. God/ nature/ chance made them that way. They never chose to be that way, so ultimately I see them as awful, but not intentionally awful.
5. How to forgive? If I may quote the New Testament as wisdom (not religion): "they know not what they do." Of course that doesn't mean they weren't responsible. Just that they didn't CHOOSE to be people who allowed themselves to be the way they were.
6. Does that mean I forgive and forget? No!!!!!!!!! I carry the damage. But I know that it is the result of a pointless, random, miserable confluence of chance events (= them being my parents), thus the inner voices are like a broken leg. It hurts, it gets in the way, but it is devoid of meaning, of truth.
7. Is that forgiveness? It's forgiveness in the way I forgive a vicious dog that bites me. What's the point in holding a grudge against random bad things? The bite still hurts, I still dislike the dog. But not to forgive it, is to assume the dog knew it shouldn't bite, knew the consequences, and still bit anyway.
8. Forgiveness doesn't prevent me being angry. It just lets me feel I have a right to ignore the inner voices and recognize that they are mere damage; as I said, they're like a broken leg.
PS
Being damaged is a great way to make friends!!! It makes one humble, and anyway most people are damaged. It's actually something people bond over.

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@brutusthebear

You have been so fortunate to have and love your husband…when you love and loose the person it’s just plain grief and that grief doesn’t leave, you just have to navigate around it I guess. My oldest son struggles with alcoholism and has Asperger’s…very intelligent and talented and productive working on my properties but I just can’t handle the stress of it. I also have been active and in really good shape but the emotional sadness is the worst. You know, I wish I had dementia and was in a nice care home! So sad because I love doing things and enjoy people but find myself in bed sometimes for days! I need to just stop playing”god” I guess and detach but don’t seem to be able to. How very, very brave your going on a cruise! Your husband is proud of you I know! You inspire me…😊👍💕🌺

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I don't think becoming detached is the only route to coping with helping people. I look at it this way:

I can't do any more than my best, I'm not God.

But if I'm sad, stressed and depressed, I can't even do my best.

So if I can accept that all I can do is my best (which includes looking after myself, doing things I like, etc) then I will probably stop feeling sad, and I will be able to do my best (and no more than that) for my loved ones!

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@brutusthebear

You have been so fortunate to have and love your husband…when you love and loose the person it’s just plain grief and that grief doesn’t leave, you just have to navigate around it I guess. My oldest son struggles with alcoholism and has Asperger’s…very intelligent and talented and productive working on my properties but I just can’t handle the stress of it. I also have been active and in really good shape but the emotional sadness is the worst. You know, I wish I had dementia and was in a nice care home! So sad because I love doing things and enjoy people but find myself in bed sometimes for days! I need to just stop playing”god” I guess and detach but don’t seem to be able to. How very, very brave your going on a cruise! Your husband is proud of you I know! You inspire me…😊👍💕🌺

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I don't think becoming detached is the only route to coping with helping people. I look at it this way:

I can't do any more than my best, I'm not God.

But if I'm sad, stressed and depressed, I can't even do my best.

So if I can accept that all I can do is my best (which includes looking after myself, doing things I like, etc) then I will probably stop feeling sad, and I will be able to do my best (and no more than that) for my loved ones! And I'll be doing much more for them than when I was sad and depressed.

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@ricm58

I see it this way:
1. my parents caused me damage
2. sadly for me they were blind to what they did. And that included endless arguing - once my father threatened to crash the car on the highway with me and my mother in it.
3. But they really had no clue what I was going through.
4. God/ nature/ chance made them that way. They never chose to be that way, so ultimately I see them as awful, but not intentionally awful.
5. How to forgive? If I may quote the New Testament as wisdom (not religion): "they know not what they do." Of course that doesn't mean they weren't responsible. Just that they didn't CHOOSE to be people who allowed themselves to be the way they were.
6. Does that mean I forgive and forget? No!!!!!!!!! I carry the damage. But I know that it is the result of a pointless, random, miserable confluence of chance events (= them being my parents), thus the inner voices are like a broken leg. It hurts, it gets in the way, but it is devoid of meaning, of truth.
7. Is that forgiveness? It's forgiveness in the way I forgive a vicious dog that bites me. What's the point in holding a grudge against random bad things? The bite still hurts, I still dislike the dog. But not to forgive it, is to assume the dog knew it shouldn't bite, knew the consequences, and still bit anyway.
8. Forgiveness doesn't prevent me being angry. It just lets me feel I have a right to ignore the inner voices and recognize that they are mere damage; as I said, they're like a broken leg.
PS
Being damaged is a great way to make friends!!! It makes one humble, and anyway most people are damaged. It's actually something people bond over.

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I read your post twice. Intellectually I understand it. But my mother knew what she was doing. During the years as I have spoken to various members of my family they also knew what she was doing and what she was doing to me. She was a jealous and vindictive woman. She could shame and humiliate me and she did - always in front of others. When I finally got up the courage to leave, she sold my things that I could not take with me. She didn't ask or tell me about this. She sold them and kept the money. All these things I bought with my own money. I had to go to work right after high school because she deemed me too stupid to go to college. After I met my soon to be husband, I even wondered if there was something wrong with him because how could he love someone like me? Because at that time I firmly believed I was stupid and ugly and no one would have anything to do with me. All those scars last and hurt and I just cannot feel forgiveness.

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@thisismarilynb

I read your post twice. Intellectually I understand it. But my mother knew what she was doing. During the years as I have spoken to various members of my family they also knew what she was doing and what she was doing to me. She was a jealous and vindictive woman. She could shame and humiliate me and she did - always in front of others. When I finally got up the courage to leave, she sold my things that I could not take with me. She didn't ask or tell me about this. She sold them and kept the money. All these things I bought with my own money. I had to go to work right after high school because she deemed me too stupid to go to college. After I met my soon to be husband, I even wondered if there was something wrong with him because how could he love someone like me? Because at that time I firmly believed I was stupid and ugly and no one would have anything to do with me. All those scars last and hurt and I just cannot feel forgiveness.

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Sometimes forgiveness comes in the form of a decision... "I am just not letting that woman live in my head rent-free anymore." Out....💞

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I will give it a try. Maybe I can invent a broom and use it to sweep away the witch.

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@thisismarilynb

I read your post twice. Intellectually I understand it. But my mother knew what she was doing. During the years as I have spoken to various members of my family they also knew what she was doing and what she was doing to me. She was a jealous and vindictive woman. She could shame and humiliate me and she did - always in front of others. When I finally got up the courage to leave, she sold my things that I could not take with me. She didn't ask or tell me about this. She sold them and kept the money. All these things I bought with my own money. I had to go to work right after high school because she deemed me too stupid to go to college. After I met my soon to be husband, I even wondered if there was something wrong with him because how could he love someone like me? Because at that time I firmly believed I was stupid and ugly and no one would have anything to do with me. All those scars last and hurt and I just cannot feel forgiveness.

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If I am right in what I'm saying the main point is this:
A person can be wicked, knowingly, and take satisfaction in it.

However, they didn't choose to be that way, that is who they just are. They must carry responsibility for it. But the fact that they are that way is, in itself, outside their control, precisely because they are ok with it. Which is, certainly, miserable for those who that person mistreats.

But if that person mistreats me, it's not about me. I didn't do anything to deserve that, they aren't judging me. They are making me the receptacle of their meanness. OK maybe I did some thing or other that they didn't like. But no way does that justify them being very mean to me.

So if I internalize that voice, I am now making it about me, when they voice was actually 0.1% or less about me, and 99.9% about the kind of person that mean person was.

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@thisismarilynb

I read your post twice. Intellectually I understand it. But my mother knew what she was doing. During the years as I have spoken to various members of my family they also knew what she was doing and what she was doing to me. She was a jealous and vindictive woman. She could shame and humiliate me and she did - always in front of others. When I finally got up the courage to leave, she sold my things that I could not take with me. She didn't ask or tell me about this. She sold them and kept the money. All these things I bought with my own money. I had to go to work right after high school because she deemed me too stupid to go to college. After I met my soon to be husband, I even wondered if there was something wrong with him because how could he love someone like me? Because at that time I firmly believed I was stupid and ugly and no one would have anything to do with me. All those scars last and hurt and I just cannot feel forgiveness.

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@thisismarilynb did you say your mom had a mental problem …? In which case one could say … she would be considered “guilty by reason of insanity” …?

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Often when we are hurt (and nothing hurts like feeling rejected by our own family) we make the choice to let it define us. Huge mistake. WE and only we are responsible for our choices. You can let what your parents did continue to control your life, or you can choose to forgive and move on. That doesn’t mean you accept or approve of another’s behavior but maybe you should stop trying to figure out why they did what they did. Pity them and pray for them. And choose to find your joy and purpose. You won’t find that by focusing on others. Remember, forgiveness is a Choice you make for You. God bless you

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