Has anyone ever tried stem cell activators for osteoporosis?

Posted by mmcdimarco3 @mmcdimarco3, Apr 18, 2023

I am very concerned about going on osteoporosis medicine. My mother, her mother, my grandmother both had renal failure. They were both diabetic but I'm not diabetic. I didn't realize until recently that renal failure has a strong genetic component. My doctors don't seem concerned but I am especially since by blood work in January showed high level of phorsus. I've had several compression fractures. Still trying to find an alternative to prescription drugs.

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madre54 | @madre54 | Apr 30, 2023

Does LIV also help with Osteoarthritis?

mtran88788 | @mtran88788 | Apr 30, 2023

In reply to @mmcdimarco3 "Thank you for this information. I will look into it too. Never heard of it" + (show)

Clinton Rubin PH.D. is the main researcher on LIV. I believe it started > 30 years ago to address bone loss by astronauts in space due to lack of gravity. There is a detailed and long lecture by Dr Rubin online that explains how LIV impacts bones and muscles.
In MHO, Margaret Martin PT from Canada gives great, science based information on her website melioguide.com. She also has a channel on YouTube.
I hope this helps.

mtran88788 | @mtran88788 | May 1, 2023

In reply to @madre54 "Does LIV also help with Osteoarthritis?" + (show)

I don’t know for sure. From the information that I gathered LIV helps with osteoporosis, muscles and balance. Maybe you need to do further research.

melia7 | @melia7 | May 2, 2023

In reply to mtran88788
I have followed the lecture of Dr.Rubin as well and I find his explanation of the vibration effect on bone density convincing. One of the articles based on meta analysis you can find here: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0166774
It would be useful if gyms would have vibration platforms and people could use them.
I myself was so convinced that I ordered the platform in Germany and it came very quickly, in a couple of weeks. However, they warned me that there is much demand and delays could happen.

mtran88788 | @mtran88788 | May 3, 2023

Good to hear that you are also giving the Marodyne a chance. Maybe you can post the info about how to order it from Germany. I ordered mine from COPA Health based in Florida. They provide 2 years warranty and can service the unit in case of malfunction. It’s supposed to be quite sturdy and can last more than 10 years.
It’s too bad that no facility in the US, as far as I know, offers the use of the Marodyne for a small monthly fee. It will make it more available. Osteostrong charges $100 / month. I’m not impressed with the information that I gathered about that company. I have some doubts about their claim.

melia7 | @melia7 | May 4, 2023

In response to mtran88788
I learned about Marodyne in this forum and am very grateful for this!
here is the link of the German company BTT Health. I contacted with Sabine and Gabriele:
sabine.vonkesselstatt.extern@btt-health.com
gabriele.weiss@btt-health.com
They were very efficient in sending me the platform. The guarantee is 2 years as well.

mtran88788 | @mtran88788 | May 5, 2023

In reply to @melia7 "In response to mtran88788 I learned about Marodyne in this forum and am very grateful for..." + (show)

Do you pay with a credit card ? In case of malfunction, do you have to mail the unit to Germany for service ?

melia7 | @melia7 | May 6, 2023

to mtran88788

They demand wire transfer from your bank, and supply you with the necessary information about their German bank.
I got this answer to your question when I contacted BTT Health: As a manufacturer BTT Health grants the statutory warranty of 2 years. I think that this means that in case of malfunction one has to send the platform to Germany.