Hi all! I've been on Paxil for 22 years. I was diagnosed with background anxiety and mild depression at 35 years old, after wondering my whole life what was wrong with me. It changed my life for the better. I think a lot of my depression is due to growing up in a very dysfunctional household with 2 alcoholic parents.
Now at 57 years old, I'd like to see if I can taper off of it completely so I can take a psilocybin trip without the Paxil dulling the effects. My hope is that doing so might negate most of the damage done by my dysfunctional upbringing by resetting my default mode network. (See the Clinical Significance section in Wikipedia for the "Default_mode_network" page.)
In order to taper while managing symptoms, I built a spreadsheet to track my daily dosage and the estimated amount of Paxil in my system based on the average half-life of 21 hours. (This half-life varies by metabolism rate and other differences between individuals).
It's been useful because if I start to have debilitating symptoms, I can raise my dosage by testing various values in the spreadsheet for the current day to adjust it to when I last had no symptoms.
I thought it might be of use to others, so here is how I built it:
First, see the attached screenshot of the Google Doc.
Here are the values and formula:
A2: "4/10/2023" (a few days before I started tapering)
A3: =A2+1 (this makes the date progress down the column; just fill down from A3 to add more days)
Column B is for manually entering the dose I take in the morning.
Column C estimates the amount still in my system based on how much I've taken today and the previous 4 days, and the average half-life of 21 hours. The formula for C3 is:
=ROUND(SUM(B3*EXP(-LN(2)/21*24*0), IF(ROW() > 1, B2*EXP(-LN(2)/21*24*1), 0), IF(ROW() > 2, B3*EXP(-LN(2)/21*24*2), 0), IF(ROW() > 3, B4*EXP(-LN(2)/21*24*3), 0), IF(ROW() > 4, B5*EXP(-LN(2)/21*24*4), 0)))
Fill down from C3.
The rest of the columns are for symptoms I experience by the end of the day, if any.
Hey @taperchase - I'm also very interested in exploring psychedelics for long term treatment of my anxiety. The research so far looks VERY promising. Psilocybin looks to be effective in many cases.
For myself, I'm tapering down Pristiq so that I can participate in a clinical trial of LSD for anxiety - I passed the initial screening. Hoping that analysis/treatment for my jaw issues (likely ameloblastoma recurrence) won't preclude me continuing to the active phase of the trial.
After trying several other options my GP wanted to try, I was started on 50mg/day of Pristiq (desvenlavaxine). It was moderately effective. After 6 weeks, GP wanted us to try 100mg/day since it was only moderately effective. I just couldn't tolerate the (depressive) side effects, and called it after about 2 weeks*, dropped down to 75mg. After another 3-4 weeks, I had to drop down to 50mg, which was tolerable. Not great for dealing with the anxiety, but tolerable.
Stuck with 50mg for months, then for the trial noted above I tapered to 25mg, which really spiked the anxiety for about a week - but it smoothed out after that. We'll see what happens when I end it entirely. My current plan is to stick with 25mg for at least another week or two.
*Already been down this road with other meds to help address my anxiety such as Fluoxetine (Prozac). Starter dose of a med, and I have only moderate relief from the anxiety. GP decides we should try a higher dose, which ends up being too much. Too much means I get to experience Major Depressive Disorder.
Possible TMI ahead: As an aside (since this is the Pristiq thread after all) - I found that Prozac was ridiculously effective at suppressing libido, something I consider a really bad side effect. I've been a 1+ time a day guy for over 30 years. Prozac cut that down to once a month at best. That did NOT help my self esteem or confidence, and really made me feel guilty I simply couldn't meet my partner's needs. Not exactly helpful for dealing with anxiety/depression