Taking vitamin C as a supplement

Posted by trishanna @trishanna, Jun 16, 2019

My new dietitian has recommended NO vitamin C supplements if one has kidney disease. I have for years taken 500 mg time released vitamin C and suspect it has helped me to avoid colds. Has anyone been told to avoid vitamin C?

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@jakedduck1

“Jake- Good morning. Check with your doctor about that, always.”
About what?
Jake

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@jakedduck1- About how much Vitamin C you shroud take- or did I misunderstand and he already has?

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@trishanna

Thanks, kamama94 and jakedduck1, for the information. Because of dietary problems, I don't have a good, consistent source of vitamins and minerals, so I also take a multi-vitamin multi-mineral and A REDS 2 (a supplement prescribed by my optometrist and designed to help with the ill effects of diabetes). The amounts in these other supplements plus my time release means I'm close to 2000 mg per day. I can see I'm probably too high on Vitamin C, but think the "eye vitamin" is important. Think juggling between diabetes and ckd is not going to be a piece of cake, which I surely would enjoy right now!!!

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excellent and rational comment. Most studies on oral ascorbate supplementation and oxalate formation and/or kidney stone formation are flawed , as the vast majority did not take into the consideration of the formation of oxalates in vitro , the formation during storage , nor has taken into the account the dietary intake from foods , coffee , teas , chocolates etc. The reality is that only a small amount of ascorbate is under normal circumstances is broken down to Oxalic acid. Moreover, regarding gout and Uric acid stone , it's established that there's an inverse relationship between serum Uric acid and Serum ascorbate, which likely explains why high Vitamin C supplementation will help prevent and treat gout, as the Uric acid is a strong intrinsic ANTI-oxidant ,( similarly to Bilirubin), which synthesis from purines the body will increase during low dietary intake of Vitamin C. Uric acid is the lesser effective asssistant to Vit C.

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I believe the vitamin C you are taking is very safe. It is also more beneficial. The reason for this is the amount of vitamin C being released into your blood stream. Very important to note that you are taking :timed release". This means that the 500 mg you take is being released into your blood over about a 12 hour period or at just 42 mg/hour. This very low dose should not stress your kidney. Also important to know is that vitamin C is water soluble, so it is flushed from your body in hours. This is another reason "timed release" is so important.
https://www.kidney.org/atoz/content/vitamineral#:~:text=There%20is%20also%20some%20concern,and%20other%20issues%20over%20time.

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My Mayo nephrologist took me off of vitamin C. I was surprised therefor, when my husband’s non-Mayo nephrologist didn’t seem to have a problem with it.

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@kamama94

Also, my name really is Kamama, Cehrokee for butterfly, and my English name is Kay. That's not privileged info, I tell everybody.

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How beautiful to be called butterfly.

Do you mind it if people ask about your Cherokee heritage?

My heritage is a complex mix of Jewish, Slavic, British and Brazilian. However, these days I consider Western "civilization" a sad (and ruthless) mistake, and wish I could find a way to make sense of these feelings (eg connect with how humans were before).

Although I'm totally secular, I learnt a lot (during a brief period) from orthodox Jewish rabbis. And it helped me detach a bit from our dire consumer culture. But I think their wisdom comes roughly from when "civilization" was taking roots.

I have no illusions, I'm sure humans have always had their nasty sides (after all, all natural beings feed in some sense on other natural beings).

I just think "civilization" made the process less fair - a few have ever more wealth and/or power, while the majority have ever less.

PS
I'm currently learning a lot about family, friends and love (at 58 🤣.... But better late than never!).

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@ricm58

How beautiful to be called butterfly.

Do you mind it if people ask about your Cherokee heritage?

My heritage is a complex mix of Jewish, Slavic, British and Brazilian. However, these days I consider Western "civilization" a sad (and ruthless) mistake, and wish I could find a way to make sense of these feelings (eg connect with how humans were before).

Although I'm totally secular, I learnt a lot (during a brief period) from orthodox Jewish rabbis. And it helped me detach a bit from our dire consumer culture. But I think their wisdom comes roughly from when "civilization" was taking roots.

I have no illusions, I'm sure humans have always had their nasty sides (after all, all natural beings feed in some sense on other natural beings).

I just think "civilization" made the process less fair - a few have ever more wealth and/or power, while the majority have ever less.

PS
I'm currently learning a lot about family, friends and love (at 58 🤣.... But better late than never!).

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PS

I have a feeling that your observation in an earlier post that "Life is a hoot" is part of the "answer" I'm looking for 🙂

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