Ingegerd Enscoe, Alumni Mentor | @astaingegerdm | Aug 8, 2020
@lmcfm1 - Hi and welcome to Connect!
I have experience with dental bone loss and autoimmune disease. I’m fine now, but a few years ago I had a gastrointestinal autoimmune disease plus a Sjogren’s like illness. Tested negative, but I had very dry mouth and eyes. I ended up having almost see through front teeth, due to lack of saliva I think. I ended up with capped teeth.
Also, if you take a lot of steroids over time there will be bone loss.
I am fine now after treatment with immunosuppressive drugs. No more mouth dryness, just the opposite!
May I ask what you are treated for?
@lmcfm1 - Hi and welcome to Connect!
I have experience with dental bone loss and autoimmune disease. I’m fine now, but a few years ago I had a gastrointestinal autoimmune disease plus a Sjogren’s like illness. Tested negative, but I had very dry mouth and eyes. I ended up having almost see through front teeth, due to lack of saliva I think. I ended up with capped teeth.
Also, if you take a lot of steroids over time there will be bone loss.
I am fine now after treatment with immunosuppressive drugs. No more mouth dryness, just the opposite!
May I ask what you are treated for?
Yes, there is a significant relation between Autoimmune disease and bone loss in the mouth . It also has proportional relations to each other meaning poor oral health significantly affects the Autoimmune disease vice versa.There are few simple reasons , mouth is extremely well vascularized to protect the body and also mouth has millions of microorganisms most of the are essential for health but at the same time some of those rogue bacteria can very easily travel to heart ,brain or other places where it could cause significant damages so the body's immune system has to be in hyper alert in the mouth because it is flash point like a war . So in that war the collateral damage is bone in the oral cavity .
Sajjad A.Khan DDS,B.DS
Yes, there is a significant relation between Autoimmune disease and bone loss in the mouth . It also has proportional relations to each other meaning poor oral health significantly affects the Autoimmune disease vice versa.There are few simple reasons , mouth is extremely well vascularized to protect the body and also mouth has millions of microorganisms most of the are essential for health but at the same time some of those rogue bacteria can very easily travel to heart ,brain or other places where it could cause significant damages so the body's immune system has to be in hyper alert in the mouth because it is flash point like a war . So in that war the collateral damage is bone in the oral cavity .
Sajjad A.Khan DDS,B.DS
Yes, there is a significant relation between Autoimmune disease and bone loss in the mouth . It also has proportional relations to each other meaning poor oral health significantly affects the Autoimmune disease vice versa.There are few simple reasons , mouth is extremely well vascularized to protect the body and also mouth has millions of microorganisms most of the are essential for health but at the same time some of those rogue bacteria can very easily travel to heart ,brain or other places where it could cause significant damages so the body's immune system has to be in hyper alert in the mouth because it is flash point like a war . So in that war the collateral damage is bone in the oral cavity .
Sajjad A.Khan DDS,B.DS
Dear Dr. Khan,
Thank you again for your explanation. I hope you can take a little more of your time to answer another question.
There is a lot of information available on ideal oral health practices, but, for a lot of us sick people, we can't reach the ideal.
*** Can you suggest some simple, "something is better than nothing" actions that we can do to try to maintain oral health? OR-- easier for you and for us : ) -- Can you give us a link to a reputable source with this kind of information?***
Here is an example:
At night, I have to take a pill with food, so, before I go to sleep, I've got crackers in my mouth, and some nights I really cannot get up to brush my teeth. I am too tired and my hands already hurt. What are some alternative things that I can do? Swish water? Swish salty water? Rub teeth and gums with a tissue? Any other, better ideas?
I really appreciate your kindness and time. I think that there are other people in my situation who also appreciate and could benefit from your guidance.
Dear Dr. Khan,
Thank you again for your explanation. I hope you can take a little more of your time to answer another question.
There is a lot of information available on ideal oral health practices, but, for a lot of us sick people, we can't reach the ideal.
*** Can you suggest some simple, "something is better than nothing" actions that we can do to try to maintain oral health? OR-- easier for you and for us : ) -- Can you give us a link to a reputable source with this kind of information?***
Here is an example:
At night, I have to take a pill with food, so, before I go to sleep, I've got crackers in my mouth, and some nights I really cannot get up to brush my teeth. I am too tired and my hands already hurt. What are some alternative things that I can do? Swish water? Swish salty water? Rub teeth and gums with a tissue? Any other, better ideas?
I really appreciate your kindness and time. I think that there are other people in my situation who also appreciate and could benefit from your guidance.
Keep a soft bristle tooth brush next to your bed after flossing just use regular drinking water brush your teeth and spit in spit bowl . You can use mouthwash of your choice instead water also . Thanks
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@lmcfm1 Here is a link to an informational article from Mayo Clinic about periodontitis, and it discusses the issue and possible causes. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/periodontitis/symptoms-causes/syc-20354473
As you can see, there are several factors that can affect bone and tooth issues. Have you spoken to your dentist or specialist about your concerns?
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I have experience with dental bone loss and autoimmune disease. I’m fine now, but a few years ago I had a gastrointestinal autoimmune disease plus a Sjogren’s like illness. Tested negative, but I had very dry mouth and eyes. I ended up having almost see through front teeth, due to lack of saliva I think. I ended up with capped teeth.
Also, if you take a lot of steroids over time there will be bone loss.
I am fine now after treatment with immunosuppressive drugs. No more mouth dryness, just the opposite!
May I ask what you are treated for?
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4 ReactionsHello,
I have an auto-immune antibody related to neuropathy (TS-HDS), Reynauds, Celiac and Thyroid related issues.
I do have Hashimoto's thyroiditis plus rheumatoid arthritis.
I have Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Rheumatoid Arthritis, and secondary Sjogrens Syndrome (dry eyes & dry mouth).
Yes, there is a significant relation between Autoimmune disease and bone loss in the mouth . It also has proportional relations to each other meaning poor oral health significantly affects the Autoimmune disease vice versa.There are few simple reasons , mouth is extremely well vascularized to protect the body and also mouth has millions of microorganisms most of the are essential for health but at the same time some of those rogue bacteria can very easily travel to heart ,brain or other places where it could cause significant damages so the body's immune system has to be in hyper alert in the mouth because it is flash point like a war . So in that war the collateral damage is bone in the oral cavity .
Sajjad A.Khan DDS,B.DS
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18 ReactionsWow, it's great to have a dentist explain this! Thank you for taking the time to post!!
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11 ReactionsDear Dr. Khan,
Thank you again for your explanation. I hope you can take a little more of your time to answer another question.
There is a lot of information available on ideal oral health practices, but, for a lot of us sick people, we can't reach the ideal.
*** Can you suggest some simple, "something is better than nothing" actions that we can do to try to maintain oral health? OR-- easier for you and for us : ) -- Can you give us a link to a reputable source with this kind of information?***
Here is an example:
At night, I have to take a pill with food, so, before I go to sleep, I've got crackers in my mouth, and some nights I really cannot get up to brush my teeth. I am too tired and my hands already hurt. What are some alternative things that I can do? Swish water? Swish salty water? Rub teeth and gums with a tissue? Any other, better ideas?
I really appreciate your kindness and time. I think that there are other people in my situation who also appreciate and could benefit from your guidance.
Thank you very much! Blessings to you
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8 ReactionsDr. Kahn D.D.S.,
Thank you for your explanations between autoimmune disorders and oral health. Very interesting and informative.
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2 ReactionsKeep a soft bristle tooth brush next to your bed after flossing just use regular drinking water brush your teeth and spit in spit bowl . You can use mouthwash of your choice instead water also . Thanks
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