PMR Dosages and Managing Symptoms
I've read through the discussions and note all the different dosages of prednisone, different lengths of time taking prednisone, plus the addition of other meds, for PMR. I also note that the tapering of dosages and time frames are so varied from person to person. It appears there is not a set standard among physicians. How does one know if they were/are receiving the right dosage? Obviously, if symptoms subside, the dose is working, but after tapering if the symptoms return, was the initial dosage correct? I've also read that a person shouldn't be on prednisone long term, but there are many who've been on it for a few years. Its all very confusing.
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My rheumatologist put me on Fosamax for my bones as soon as I started prednisone. I have osteopenia which means my bone density is more than 10% below what a young person would have, not as bad as osteoporosis. I have gained around 4% of bone density in the 1.5 years I've been on it but would like to get off now that I am on a lower prednisone dose ( 6.5 mg). One of the listed side effects is muscle and joint pain. I don't know if it is adding to the significant pain I have but I would like to find out and will ask my rheumy about it next visit. I've read a paper stating that drugs like Fosamax are recommended for people with osteopenia taking 7.5 mg or more of prednisone. Below 7.5 there is no opinion one way or the other.
Hi @linda7, I've not taken Fosamax but have read that it can cause pain. Here's some information on the topic.
"Can Fosamax cause joint and muscle pain?
The FDA found that Fosamax patients can also develop intense bone, muscle and joint pains within days, months or years after starting the drug. For some people, this pain stops almost immediately after discontinuing the medication."
-- Fosamax Side Effects | Problems With Esophagus & Femur Pain
https://www.drugwatch.com/fosamax/side-effects/
My doctor and my rheumatologist unfortunately disagree with both the diagnosis and the treatment. I am now on Advil Joint and Muscle 400g (my own treatment decision/choice!) and I only have to take one every 48 to 72 hours to manage the pain and stiffness. However, I now worry about the impact of the Advil over the long term. Thoughts?
I have read throught some of their discussions and I have yet to see them get past the "positive ANA" phase. Can't someone help them understand that a positive ana just leads to more specific test to find out what their body is doing on a more specific level? This is just a screening test to see if they need more testing. And the reference to mercury, I'm not even going to go there....
My Rheumatologist sucks and I've only been able to see her once since May 2022 and one 10 min phone appt. I get more helpful information on this Site than any doctor has provided thus far. I do get monthly bloodwork, but never find out the result of it - good or bad. I have to make an appointment with my GP in order to discuss any outcomes. At 14.0 mg. at this time. Would love to taper down a bit, but this is not the time for that. Too many flu bugs floating around. Negative Nancy today. Sorry, have a stomach bug. Nothing seems to be the "24 hour" variety anymore. Wish I could be more uplifting. Cheers to you!
Abbeyc, no apologies necessary for sitting with your frustration and disappointment. Not here anyway, I expect. We have all been at that place. So many lows, and very highs on this journey. I too get my encouragement and hope here. I wonder if asking your rheumatologist at a minimum for your chemistry results as they come in would help you feel more informed along the way ? Seems a small ask. I can log onto my lab site and get my own. Good or bad I feel better having that ability. I hope you find a boost. Take care.
May I suggest a probiotic? There are some good ones out there. Try to find one with the most different species, not the most colony forming units. Also, colostrum that you find at the health food store (powered or capsules), helps protect the stomach lining from bad bugs. Things I've learned as a Crohn's patient. Both do not require a script.
Thanks for this info. At this point, anything is worth a try. 🙂
I was doing pretty well on 5 mg of prednisone a day tapering it down from 16 mg at one time approximately a year and a half ago. I believe I’m having a flare and I suspect I need to increase my prednisone and I am wondering about how to go about it. Should I go up in 5 mg increments or less and if so, what is a common dose that takes care of the flare?
That is so frustrating, getting down to 5 mg and then having a flare-up. I also had been tapering for months and was down to 2 mg looking towards the end when I had a flare-up. I increased from 2 to 3 and when that didn't work after several days I went up to 4 and then to 5 when that failed to relieve discomfort. Since then I have been tapering by 1/2 mg every three weeks, and that works for me. Also, as much as possible I have removed processed foods and refined sugar from my diet. Good luck.