Pudendal Nerve Entrapment/Neuropathy/Damage

Posted by mandiPNE @mandee, Oct 5, 2018

Hello from a new member. Am wondering if anyone suffers from the monster Pudendal Nerve Entrapment/Neuropathy/Damage? I do. And I'm very alone in it. It is a very uncommon condition, and because of its personal nature, one that many people may not be comfortable opening up about. There seems to be a more vocal/visible presence of patients in the US, AUS and France. I hope, I need, I want - for it be made more aware of here in Canada. If there is any one who suffers from it, or who thinks they might, please feel free to open up about it. Please join me in advocating for ourselves in this horrible condition.

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@mikaylar

I took anti-seizure medication off-label for another ailment, but it cured my pudendal nerve damage. My pelvic PT said she had heard of this before.

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can you tell me what medicine was that?

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Topamax. It's nasty and I stopped it after 2 weeks. But it was long enough for me to realize my butt felt better after 14 years of sitting on a donut. I was taking it for migraine and daily persistent headache. My former pelvic PT said she just read about it helping pudendal nerves. That was awhile after I was treating with her. But, it makes sense.......it's for seizures and that pudendal nerve is in a spasm. What have you got to lose?
Mikayla

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@cake

I think I've had PN for 9 months now and at first laying down took the pain away, but now laying on my back I feel discomfort in my sacral area as well as buttocks. Has anyone wondered if the piriformis muscle might be involved in this? There is a surgeon, Dr. Tollestrup, who removes the piriformis muscle. I wonder if that would relieve pudendal neuralgia symptoms?

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I'm thinking of going to Dr. Tollestrup for this. Did you go to him? How was your outcome?

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@baileyladdie

Hi, Can you tell me if you are allowed what Doctor is helping you. I just recently got my symptoms it has been not quite a year. Getting worse. Also is your pain only in one area? Mine are in my feet and hands also now numbness in neck and head.

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Pudendal Nerve pain:
After 2 solid years of horrific pain, visiting 7 local doctors, I made a appt at Mayo Clinic, Jacksonville, Fl MAYO CLINIC. I flew each trip. He gave me my life back. Horrific striking pain except when in a hot tub of water or elevating my feet. Was pretty much a home body. Sat on a doughnut cushion.
After exhaustive research, I found MAYO CLINIC’s Dr Paul Pettit, Urogyn. Year 2012. Under sedation, he used skillfully Used Botox injection. First one, helped a little. He told me that… Came back when he told me ( about 2-3 months?). After second injection , one day… it magically left me! To date, no pudendal nerve pain. I am forever grateful to MAYO and Dr Paul Pettit.

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I had this monster for 14-1/2 years so I know you are more than ecstatic. What finally helped me was anti-seizure medicine that I was taking for another issue.

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@bkruppa

My wife has had pudendal nerve pain for 8 years. Initially the pain was due to a bout of shingles. However, during the recovery period I believe that something new kicked in which I believe is PNE (Pudendal Nerve Entrapment) as the symptoms are identical and to me it makes sense. The pain areas in the pelvic region are exactly where the pudendal nerve goes. PNE normally is resolved by relief of any muscle or scar tissue that may be entrapping the pudendal nerve. There are many facilities around the country that treat this condition and the treatment is massaging, dialators, etc. of the muscles that could be entrapping the pudendal nerve. My wife gets some relief from this kind of treatment but it is temporary and it only helps some. We have been to many facilities including the Mayo Clinic but the doctors don't seem to recognize PNE as mostly they want to use pain meds as a course of action. We want a solution. We have tried nerve blocks in the caudal area as well as lower in the buttocks with zero pain relief.

There is a muscle group that entraps the pudendal nerve and that is the sacrotubernous ligament which can easily entrap the nerve. There are specific massaging techniques that can relieve this pressure.

Given that my wife's pain varies doctors have agreed that the nerve is not damaged. This is good news as apparently there is no treatment for a damaged nerve.

We have looked into neurostimulators. My main concern is affect on other nerves in the probe area as well as other more serious issues. I contacted two companies about their devices and neither company has any data on helping pudendal nerve issues so we would be on our own as far as what to expect. However, I had heard about paralysis as a possible side affect. Again I contacted both companies regarding the frequency of this issue but neither would respond to my requests. That was unfortunate. Then we find that a neighbor down the street from us was paralyzed due to this procedure. Now I don't want to scare people out of going through this procedure as this is a case of one out of ...............I don't know. A 100. A 1000, A 10,000. I just don't know. A doctor at Mayo told us that 20% of these need to be readjusted (surgery) within 5 years and over time they become less and less effective. Given all of the above we chose not to go through with the procedure.

Another neuro doctor is suggesting that the pain is due to inflammation of root of the pudendal nerve which resides at the spinal cord where it connects to the spinal column. Here they want to inject steroids to reduce the inflammation. Results may be nothing, good for two weeks, two months,????? They can't predict. IF this is the source then my choice would be to determine why it is inflamed at this area and resolve this issue rather than throwing meds at it.

We are also looking into inversion tables as a source of relief. The theory being that maybe her spine is shrinking due to aging and therefore entrapping the pudendal nerve. Also since she favors sitting on one side to relieve the sensitive side maybe the spine got reformed and therefore entrapping the nerve. So we will give it a try to see what happens. We have also tried acupuncture, all the suggested vitamins for neuropathy, etc., but with no success. I read a lot of articles where sugar can cause nerve pain issues to heighten so we will be doing a sugar free diet for a couple of weeks to see what happens. MRIs show nothing but a dual frequency laser treatment has helped some but for only a day or two. My wife is on gabapentin and CBD oil. CBD oil takes some of the edge off of the pain so she uses it frequently.

Scar tissue may be another cause of entrapment. Women who have an an episiotomy during child birth can develop scar tissue in this area which is close to where the pudendal nerve travels. Haven't found any doctors who buy into this theory but a lot of my wife's pain emanates from this area so I am suspect. A PT friend of mine says that when a rotator cuff is torn in the shoulder scar tissue can form around a nerve and cause pain. In these cases surgery has helped release the entrapment. However, the nerves in this area are not complex nerves like the pudendal nerve which I guess is one reason most doctors don't want to do anything invasive since they may end up causing damage to the nerve which would result in even more pain.

Sorry for the long post. However, I wanted to present everything that we have done. I would like to hear from the rest of you about what you tried and what were the results.

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hey

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@mikaylar

I took anti-seizure medication off-label for another ailment, but it cured my pudendal nerve damage. My pelvic PT said she had heard of this before.

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I suffer from pudendal neuralgia, loss of penile sensation. I would very much like to have conversation with you
can you contact me? ***

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@tullson

I suffer from pudendal neuralgia, loss of penile sensation. I would very much like to have conversation with you
can you contact me? ***

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Okay, Christopher, I will email you later today.

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@tullson

I suffer from pudendal neuralgia, loss of penile sensation. I would very much like to have conversation with you
can you contact me? ***

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Hi @tullson, I'm happy to see that you've already connected with @mikaylar. You'll notice that we removed your email address. Connect is a public forum. We recommend sharing personal contact information using the secure private message function.

I might also add that by sharing here in the forum, you are connecting with several people where all can benefit from group support.

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@johnbishop

Hi @tullson, I'm happy to see that you've already connected with @mikaylar. You'll notice that we removed your email address. Connect is a public forum. We recommend sharing personal contact information using the secure private message function.

I might also add that by sharing here in the forum, you are connecting with several people where all can benefit from group support.

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Good idea, John. It is probably best to stay on this site. What is the secure personal contact information?

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