Mesenteric Panniculitis or Sclerosing Mesenteritis

Posted by BillyMac65 @billymac65, Dec 6, 2012

I thought I would start a discussion for patients with Mesenteric Panniculitis. From what I know, this auto-immune disorder has three stages to it, each with differing names (Mesenteric Panniculitis, Schlerosing Mesenteritis, Retractile Mesenteritis). Typically, this appears to be in older individuals with some other under-lying problem (Lymphoma, tumor, diverticulitis).

I have an atypical presentation because I do not have an underlying cause. The doctors seem to be hoping for Lymphoma to appear so they can treat it and have the auto-immune go away. I am interested in hearing from others with this. I had this diagnosed in 2011, so I am interested in hearing more about what this is like to live with. I want to hear from others who also have an atypical presentation. Did is come back? Also interested in hearing from those with Lymphoma. How was the treatment? Did it address the auto-immune?

Pretty much, I am interested in hearing from anyone who has had this, so i can better understand it, and not feel so alone with this!!

Bill

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@kimh

I was wondering if anyone has become Prednisone dependent? For the third time (of this bout!), I have tried to taper off the Prednisone. At 10 mg. I begin feeling much better, but soon enough the symptoms return. My GI wants to up my dosage once again to 20 mg. for a couple of weeks, 15 mg. for another month and then back down to 10 mg. again. I am so disheartened because in a week, I was supposed to be tapering down to 5 mg. daily. I have been on Prednisone since August of last year and am wondering if I have become dependent on it? I have read a study (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3326978/) and wondered if anyone has used colchicine to aid in the tapering off of Prednisone?

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@waterboy Bill,

Good idea. Pharmacists are a great source of information regarding meds. We often don't think to check in with them when we have a question. I appreciate your reminding us of this important health care resource.

Tresa

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@tarad

I feel like I'm slowly going crazy... I had a hysterectomy May 9, 2017. By August, I was diagnosed with mesenteric panniculitis that was "accidentally discovered" when I continued having abdominal pain after surgery (my gyno naturally thought it was my ovaries; CT scans done and radiologist found the MP). I was sent to a surgical oncologist that was said to be a "GI guru" and have extensive knowledge in all things "weird and rare". He was rather dismissive about it all as, based on my lab work my gyno had done, there was nothing that made him think there was a concern for cancer. Just brushed it off as an "annoyance issue", that the pain could stay for a month or a year, but he would give me Mobic to help with the inflammation and it should eventually resolve itself (standard treatment for MP is through steroids, but I have anaphylactic reactions to all steroids, and I'm kinda trying to NOT die....). I'm a month in on the Mobic, the flare ups in pain are more frequent with the pain being more and more intense. Nausea has also started to set up and my appetite is waning, at best, as most of the time, the thought of food makes me sick. My PCP and gyno weren't pleased with the consult I had from oncol. One has ordered a repeat CT to be done in a couple of months to monitor progression/improvement. The other has referred me to gastro and hematology. I had a positive ANA and a positive double strand DNA. My spleen has been consistently mildly enlarged on the past few CT's I've had done. Research material on this is limited. I feel like I'm in a snowglobe, being shaken up with all these doctors, throwing around words like "necrosis" and "restricted blood flow" and "cancer" and referral after referral. I'm frustrated and tired of "hurry up and wait".... is there ANYONE that's ever dealt with this that can give me a little insight on it all???

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A radiologist diagnosed me with MP in 2016 after a CT scan. 6 months later I had another CT scan and it was still the same diagnosis. For fear of having a million dollar work up and still no solutions I tried a different approach. I stopped seeing my GI doc and returned to my primary doctor with the idea that my symptoms seem to return with extreme prejudice when I’m stressed or suffering from anxiety. I asked my doctor about trying medication to control my anxiety or stress and I was prescribed a very small dose of generic Prozac. 10mg Just strong enough to take the edge off. It took a few weeks for the drug to work but eventually my MP symptoms which I refer to as “stomach spells” went away. I realize this might not be the answer for everyone. I can only tell you that I found relief from it. I ran out of Prozac last week and my stomach spells returned with a vengeance this evening right before I was to turn in for the night.
So I decided to post my results of the past 6 months online. I plan to return to my primary doc and continue with this approach. My hope is that I don’t develop a tolerance and eventually have to increase my Prozac dosage but coming from a background in Pharmaceuticals my guess is this will probably be the case eventually. Also I started drinking sparkling water for relief. Belching seems to keep my inflammation down and I grew tired, unhealthy and fat drinking sodas. Zero calorie, zero sweetener sparkling water. Exercising works also if you’re not too bloated or inflamed to actually work out. Make the time to exercise your brain and body will thank you. When all else fails I reach for my tum tum tum tums just like tonight. Find something to read online because it’s going to be a long night.

The deal is we have this issue that is rare and hasn’t been solved yet.
All we can do is treat or try and prevent the symptoms from returning until a cure is found.
I can only assume that my MP is A typical because my GI doc performed a scope and colonoscopy and found no evidence of Cancer, Lupus or anything else that could be underlying but only time will tell.
Wishing you all the best of luck learning to live with this. Should anyone have any other ways of treating their symptoms please share. Maybe your way will work for others including myself.

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@kanaazpereira

Hi @skywave,

I moved your post about finding informed practitioners for MP, and combined it with this existing discussion. I did this as I thought the other members in this group would also appreciate your insights.
If you are replying by email, I suggest clicking on VIEW & REPLY so that you can read through some of the conversations by members discussing similar questions and concerns.

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Thank you on your reply regarding MP. I was getting somewhat agitated when I was getting everything anybody was sending regarding auto immune. I've been this route before with MD's who think they need to just give me laxatives to manage MP. This was a Brigham's Woman and Dana Farber in Boston. This was after my blood panels were so out of norm I was sent to a lymphoma specialist for 6 months of blood and lab work.
This is how much help I've got since 2012 when my first onset attack happened. So what I'm looking for is just MO related issues and or treatment ideas from others patients whom are MP patients

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There is no underlying cause with my MP either, at least I hope not since they are more reluctant to follow any guidelines at my medical facility. Please excuse my non reply's to others if you did send me information regarding MP or wanted discussion. I was being bombarded with all auto immune disorders and it became a bad distraction when your phone and watch would light up a dozen times a day with non MP issues. All I can say is that I have a pretty good footing about what MP is. It is the problem with NE medical facilities that lack the caring for refined diagnosis and treatment. I can say without a doubt from Brighams Womans and Dana Farber that laxatives isn't the prime treatment for relief as this was what my so called specialist best guess solution.

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@kimh

I was wondering if anyone has become Prednisone dependent? For the third time (of this bout!), I have tried to taper off the Prednisone. At 10 mg. I begin feeling much better, but soon enough the symptoms return. My GI wants to up my dosage once again to 20 mg. for a couple of weeks, 15 mg. for another month and then back down to 10 mg. again. I am so disheartened because in a week, I was supposed to be tapering down to 5 mg. daily. I have been on Prednisone since August of last year and am wondering if I have become dependent on it? I have read a study (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3326978/) and wondered if anyone has used colchicine to aid in the tapering off of Prednisone?

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Hello, To this date, I’ve taken no medication for MP. This isn’t my choice has I had developed a allergy to NSAIDS and steroids about 10 years back. I started to loose my vision if I took steroids, any kind of steroids. Your issue sounds like a dependency problem and feel for you. Your in a catch 22 where your damned either way. As you are the only one that can answer this, do you live better with this medication or without, and are your symptoms from MP causing you to require more prednisone to maintain a comfortable means of living?What I do know is that many cases, that there is a underlining issue in which MP has developed. If you haven’t had a CT and workup lately for MP, I’m talking more than 6 months, you may want to have another battery of testing to stay on top of this. There maybe other issues hiding under MP and I hate to say this, most are pretty bad.Like myself, I do not at this time have any underlining issues that I know of, but being a firefighter for 30 years I’ve been in contact with many bad stuff. This in itself has me worried and therefore I’m trying to stay at least one step ahead. I wish you best of luck and I will reply, as I’m trying to get the hang of this site. I was getting 20-30 emails a day about everything else but MP, so hopefully its getting straightened out. Scott Sent from Mail for Windows 10 

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@gabrield

Hello all! Just diagnosed with SM on 2/26. Going to see my GP on 3/1. Can remember almost the exact day I acquired it. Came down with a myriad of symptoms. Drs. patted me on my head and told me to go home. 3yrs. later here I am. 36yr. old male Duluth, MN

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Thank you, yes very upsetting that there is no compass to steer us by for MP. Scott Sent from Mail for Windows 10 

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@kanaazpereira

Hi @skywave,

I moved your post about finding informed practitioners for MP, and combined it with this existing discussion. I did this as I thought the other members in this group would also appreciate your insights.
If you are replying by email, I suggest clicking on VIEW & REPLY so that you can read through some of the conversations by members discussing similar questions and concerns.

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I think that you'll find that we have been through ordeals, probably because of the rarity of this disease and therefore, lack of research. I have relapsed (during this latest relapse, unfortunately!) and am back up to 20 mg. of Prednisone daily. It's so frustrating! I have heard of thalidomide, colchicine and azathioprine as other options, but my GI seems to want to stay the course with Prednisone. As of August 18th, I will have been on Prednisone for a year and like you, would like to hear from others who may have had experience with different treatment options....

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@skywave

There is no underlying cause with my MP either, at least I hope not since they are more reluctant to follow any guidelines at my medical facility. Please excuse my non reply's to others if you did send me information regarding MP or wanted discussion. I was being bombarded with all auto immune disorders and it became a bad distraction when your phone and watch would light up a dozen times a day with non MP issues. All I can say is that I have a pretty good footing about what MP is. It is the problem with NE medical facilities that lack the caring for refined diagnosis and treatment. I can say without a doubt from Brighams Womans and Dana Farber that laxatives isn't the prime treatment for relief as this was what my so called specialist best guess solution.

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Hi, @skywave -- as long as you are not following the entire Autoimmune Diseases group, you won't be notified about all posts in that group. Your posting here in this MP thread has subscribed you to this discussion, and you'll keep getting notified about posts here.

Thanks for your contributions to this discussion on MP.

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I wrote a previous post. I also had A-typical messenteric panniculitis symptoms in that I had pain from 2009 to 2016. Had exploratory at Mayo Clinic, Rochester, MN. Lymphoma was also expected finding but doctors were surprised to find a rare cancer, Carcinoid, in July 2016. I can not recommend Dr. Alexander enough. And Dr. Kellogg, Specialty Surgeon. I am currently in the waiting room of gastro oncology at Dana Farber, Boston, to oncology Dept recommended by Mayo team to follow me for the indicated ten years post surgery.

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Hi There, It sounds you had the right doctor, I'm a couple of thousand miles away but I do need to ask a question about your Carcinoid. I've been diagnosed with MP since 2016, but and severe attacks from this since 2012. Did the doctor say where they located the carcinoid and your symptoms unless your symptoms were from MP? The reason why I'm asking is that doctors in Boston and in New Hampshire are clueless to what MP is. Most of what I've been reading is, many have had either lymphoma or tumor. So my own PCP doesn't believe in preventive care of MP and what it can lead to.

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