Has anyone else been diagnosed with Vagus Nerve Dysfunction?

Posted by montgomery41 @montgomery41, Jan 21, 2018

I'm new to Mayo Clinic Connect and I'm wanting to connect with others that have been diagnosed with Vagus Nerve Dysfunction and other Digestive disorders. The diagnosis of Vagus Nerve Dysfunction and it was presented to me a little over two years ago and honestly, it wasn't until I had seen my GI specialist last week that she was positive that I do have this disorder. I also have Gastroparesis, no surprise to me because that goes hand in hand with this, as well as, every single sign and symptom I have been experiencing since then. I will try to keep this brief. My history leading up to the Vagus Nerve Dysfunction was that I had Gastric Bypass surgery in 2003 and all my problems started after that. Since 2003 I have had nearly 23 both open and lap abdominal surgeries for gallbladder removal, ventral hernia repairs x 4, appendix, revision to my gastric bypass due to perforation at the anastomosis site, bowel obstructions/strictures, lysis of adhesions and the final straw was I had my gastric bypass reversed two years ago because I could not eat or drink and I had lost 65lbs. in 2 months, nearly died before my surgeon placed a g-tube then a j-tube for tube feedings. I never really tolerated the tube feedings either. My surgeon stated by the time I had my reversal done it took him 2 1/2 hours just to remove all the abdominal adhesions that I had before he could perform the surgery he was going to due. Of course, now I have a frozen abdomen, which basically means no surgeon will ever touch my abdomen again to perform surgery. Now, I feel like I've been handed a life sentence because there isn't a cure and it's all about symptom management. If anyone knows about Vagus Nerve Dysfunction, basically all major organs are connected to this cranial nerve and it affects everything! I know this is true because I am trying to deal with this every day of my life and I'm struggling. I'm not coping very well and didn't know what others with similar symptoms are handling this? I can't even sit down to eat with my family to eat because I want to eat but can't and my husband doesn't want to see me go through this. Hearing from others would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you very much if you have read my entire post.

Michelle

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@colleenyoung

Hi Bonnie,
I moved your question about vagus nerve dysfunction to this existing discussion:
- Has anyone else been diagnosed with Vagus Nerve Dysfunction?https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/new-here-has-anyone-else-been-diagnosed-with-vagus-nerve-dysfunction/

I did this so you can connect with others like @jaycip @bmont @marko82 @montgomery41 @rosexxxx @peck1944 @jkrock16 @stevegrinstead @joannemm30809 and others.

Bonnie, it sounds like your husband (and you) are dealing with a lot at 92 years old. How are the multiple diagnoses affecting him? How are you doing?

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Thank you gor asking… not well at all. I had to put my husband in a Rehab hospital. We’ve gone thru 6 hospices (accidently ref. To hospice prematurely.. by a specialist that saw him 2x by video. (Telemed-) he needed palluative, as I feel he was treatable.. I had kept his vitals stable with Dr. Prescriptions! But over medicated on hospice drugs when I requested ‘none’ he has advrse reactions to psyche drugs and benzos.. became delirious, aspirated , many trips to ERs! He was coerced to take drugs in respites that I had cautioned he responds very negative to! Major problems!! Then he almost stopoed eating and drinking (vascular dementia not a good thing As bloid flow sliw and then not circulating no reading on oximeter.. hospice couldn’t get IV to him quick enough!!! So each time ER! That negates hospice… anyway more to stiry… trying to find a faculty for more PT.. speech therapy.. almist non-verbal.. his beautiful singing voice gone! It’s been a nightmare! VA for this veteran has not done a thing for him.. Koren Conflict… Army! Approved for medical but I cannot get his healthcare going! So sorry.. but I’m trying to keep him going.. especially ‘no pain’ good vitals!!!

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@bonnieb81

Thank you gor asking… not well at all. I had to put my husband in a Rehab hospital. We’ve gone thru 6 hospices (accidently ref. To hospice prematurely.. by a specialist that saw him 2x by video. (Telemed-) he needed palluative, as I feel he was treatable.. I had kept his vitals stable with Dr. Prescriptions! But over medicated on hospice drugs when I requested ‘none’ he has advrse reactions to psyche drugs and benzos.. became delirious, aspirated , many trips to ERs! He was coerced to take drugs in respites that I had cautioned he responds very negative to! Major problems!! Then he almost stopoed eating and drinking (vascular dementia not a good thing As bloid flow sliw and then not circulating no reading on oximeter.. hospice couldn’t get IV to him quick enough!!! So each time ER! That negates hospice… anyway more to stiry… trying to find a faculty for more PT.. speech therapy.. almist non-verbal.. his beautiful singing voice gone! It’s been a nightmare! VA for this veteran has not done a thing for him.. Koren Conflict… Army! Approved for medical but I cannot get his healthcare going! So sorry.. but I’m trying to keep him going.. especially ‘no pain’ good vitals!!!

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The brain and the vagus nerve are highly dependent on activated thiamine. Magnesium is needed for activation of thiamine as well as vitamin D. Activated thiamine is needed in turn to activate B6. As you see the B vitamins work better together. There are anti thiamine factors that diminish or destroy thiamine as grouped in the stuttersence link. Magnesium like thiamine is subject to loss as listed in the krispin link. Other vagus nerve stimulints can be found in the third link. Always consult your health care professional before using any supplement.
http://stuttersense.blogspot.com/2014/08/these-factors-reduce-your-thiamine.html
https://www.krispin.com/magnes.html
https://www.healthyandnaturalworld.com/vagus-nerve/

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@onamission

The brain and the vagus nerve are highly dependent on activated thiamine. Magnesium is needed for activation of thiamine as well as vitamin D. Activated thiamine is needed in turn to activate B6. As you see the B vitamins work better together. There are anti thiamine factors that diminish or destroy thiamine as grouped in the stuttersence link. Magnesium like thiamine is subject to loss as listed in the krispin link. Other vagus nerve stimulints can be found in the third link. Always consult your health care professional before using any supplement.
http://stuttersense.blogspot.com/2014/08/these-factors-reduce-your-thiamine.html
https://www.krispin.com/magnes.html
https://www.healthyandnaturalworld.com/vagus-nerve/

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Thank you for that information! My daughter, an RN at age 58 committed suicide… major depression. The Neurologist before her death recommended a VNS ( vagus Nerve Stimulator) in her brain going to the heart and other organs! But… it was implanted for the production of seratonin… so I naturally have great interest in this article by (?) sorry( orig. article on here) as my 92 yr old husband with multiple ills and (4) diagnosed dementias plus “ Autonomic Hypotension” causing major changes in his blood pressure.. extreme highs and lows. ( Orthostatic too) is so similar to the Vagus Nerve dysfunction!?????

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@rosexxxx

Michelle, I do not know where to start after reading your past history. My 62 year old daughter has had three specialists indicate they "think" she has vagus nerve syndrome. She also had gastric bypass surgery and the surgeon wanted to do "exploratory " surgery but her roommate told her that her friend had died during exploratory surgery. It is good that you have family support. After all the unbelievable interventions you have been through I so wish there is something I can offer. Her surgeon thinks there is a possibility that the vagus nerve was damaged during the bypass surgery. I understand though that years ago cutting the vagus nerve was considered proper during bypass. You have been through so much. At this point we are waiting for a referral to a neurologist at Stanford Medical Center. Apparently there are sixty neurologists connected to Stanford. Forgive me for not being able to offer more other than my sincere empathy for all that you have been through.

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Cutting the vagus nerve would be malpractice!! At anytime-it would paralyze muscles that let you talk swallow breath/ move you food through digestive track/ controls body temperature/it runs the length of 3/4 of your body/ you need to study the cranial nerves and compare her problems to what nerves were possibly affected during surgery/ help the doctor figure out what happened- it’s her body- she knows more than any one what’s affected/ you’ve got to take intimate some things on your on

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@smilton

Cutting the vagus nerve would be malpractice!! At anytime-it would paralyze muscles that let you talk swallow breath/ move you food through digestive track/ controls body temperature/it runs the length of 3/4 of your body/ you need to study the cranial nerves and compare her problems to what nerves were possibly affected during surgery/ help the doctor figure out what happened- it’s her body- she knows more than any one what’s affected/ you’ve got to take intimate some things on your on

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To @smilton – that is such good advice. That she should compare her problems with or if nerves were damaged during surgery. It is too much of a coincidence that she had no problems (other than weight) prior to surgery and the headaches, pain in abdomen, nausea, slow motility, all began a few months after surgery.

The bariatric surgeon said he thought he saw a shadow at the juncture of her small intestine and the stomach but nothing definitive. She has had scans and xrays by a Neeurologist, neuro surgeon and gi specialist. They all “suspected” but not sure.

She is highly intelligent and now very familiar with the vagus nerve but we are waiting for a referral to a doctor who has vagus nerve experience. Meanwhile she is home suffering to day.

There are 300 clinical trials out there investigating the invasive VNStimulator. She is trying to get the TENS noninvasive stimulator adjusted properly. She has a blood pressure monitor and the CorSense monitor. But your suggestion makes sense and I will pass it along to her.

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@avmcbellar

@jaycip Yes, I developed the symptoms in error as the result of my last surgical repair of my AVM(ArterioVenousMalformation). I have been dealing with gastroparesis and have learned ways to control it. Do you get the stomach burning as well?

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I found your comment in searching out answers for my Sister. Her gastroparsis dx came after AVM surgery. I assume and believe this is related to damage of the vagus nerve for her; she also has prolonged coughing and vomiting.
How were you able to connect the surgery and subsequent gastroparsis? She is struggling to find a Dr to help her (rural America).

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@kaylaptf

I found your comment in searching out answers for my Sister. Her gastroparsis dx came after AVM surgery. I assume and believe this is related to damage of the vagus nerve for her; she also has prolonged coughing and vomiting.
How were you able to connect the surgery and subsequent gastroparsis? She is struggling to find a Dr to help her (rural America).

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My daughter has gastroparesis and also in the past few years something called cyclic vomitting syndrome. have your sister check this out. some meds can help with the vomitting and gastroparesis

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Hi Michelle, I am so sorry to read what you’ve been going through for so long. I have been dealing with an unknown condition where my body develops adhesions for no clear reason and I recently came across a clinic near Ottawa, Canada, where the clinician eliminates adhesions using shockwave therapy. He has worked on many people who’ve had abdominal surgeries and has been able to eliminate the adhesions and the pain that goes along with them. Look up Innovative Therapy Canada in Cornwall Ontario.
I would suggest giving him a call and seeing if he can help you. He has done amazing things for so many!

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@avmcbellar

Hi @bmont Did you ever confront your physician or see a GI physician for a consult with these symptoms? Scary. I do not have undigested food in my stool. Did it eventually resolve on its own? My troubles began when I got neuropathy. You would think the team of neurologists who performed my last surgical repair for my AVM (ArterioVenousMalformation) would question me. Instead, it seems I got ignored (it may be because they had no answers to my questions). Who knows? Through trial and error I have learned to manage my symptoms and feel much better because of it. I have always been my own advocate. My PCP is very helpful. He listens to me and approves labs to rule out any health suspicions. I will be happy to answer any questions to help.

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Hello
I was wondering what did you find to help the neuropathy? I have been living with it since 2015.

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@wiegela

Hello
I was wondering what did you find to help the neuropathy? I have been living with it since 2015.

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Gabapentin 900 mg every night. It also helps with RLS. I have SS,

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