Bone Coach - How do you know it works?
I have seen several people here joined Bone Coach. How do you know your osteoperosis is better. The testimonials talk about general health improving which adherence to any healthy diet may have done the same.
There is no science shown. It's pricey but worth it if it works.
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OH yes, Barb - I work on keeping strong - PT just added 4 new exercises this week to my regimen. 3 years ago I was semi-invalid from a very long lung infection and chronic pain, in 2020 (yup, during Covid) I went through comprehensive Pain Rehab to get moving and living again, and I haven't let up since. Now I see my PT "wizard" for Myofascial Release, Manual therapy, and custom exercise design, every 3 months for a "tuneup" or as needed if pain pops up. Also use visualization, relaxation, diet & exercise. I am an occasional carnivore, but except for a bit of dark chocolate & a daily cup of cafe con leche, eat a largely unprocessed diet & weigh the same as I did 35 years ago when I was a runner. I'm working on outliving my Godmother, who is still in her own apartment at 95...and maybe even see great grandchildren.
Sue
What an incredible story of perseverance! 2020 was life altering for you on so many levels. You have really found a way to rally forward thru an extremely difficult time. Your good gene pool is an encouragement..plus you are finding ways to move forward in a smart way with no shortcuts.
Very inspiring story…
@barbakp @sueinmn Id like to respond to the idea that the Bone Coach is a "scam". I am enrolled in this program and have to say that I am concerned that you would immediately draw a conclusion without knowing more about the program and what it offers. It is an extremely well researched, professional and extensive program with 5 coaches, 3 of them PhD's, one nutritionist and a Nurse Practitioner/Functional Medicine Practitioner who has been working with women for over 30 years in womens health, menapause, osteoporosis, teaches at the Functional Medicine Institute and has written books, hundreds of articles, etc.
These "coaches" are women who have thriving businesses along with their contributions to the Bone Coach Program and are highly educated in the field of osteoporosis. One part of the program alone offers 6 1-hour live Zoom calls a week with the different coaches (womens health, nutrition, stress management, exercise), and access to close to a thousand past recordings (lifetime access). That is in addition to the extensive step by step process that Kevin takes you through, so you don't get overwhelmed with the amount of information they offer.
The program is designed around identifying the causes for you specifically (ie is it estrogen, is it nutritional, is it absorption), The other target areas are Nutrition, Exercise, and Managing stress (which is closely tied to absorption as cortisol inhibits absorption of vitamins, minerals, etc) They recommend you have a: Primary Care Physician, a Functional Medicine Doctor, and an Endocrinologist on board.
With regards to marketing, Im not entirely sure why you would criticize someone for marketing their product, as anyone who wants a successful business will market their product. If anything, Kevin doesn't market it enough, as you don't really understand by looking at his website the enormous amount of information and support you get in this program. I believe he holds back because he has put so much content in his program that he does not want it stolen. And lastly, regarding cost of the program, why would that be a negative, to charge for what you get in the Bone Coach, lifetime access to all of the content...not just the Zoom calls but all of the nutrition, testing, exercises, etc.
We dont criticize anyone for hiring a Physical Therapist, a Nutritionist, a Personal Trainer, a membership at a gym. You have to pay for all of that, why is it a "scam" to pay for the extensive expertise of all of these people? The program consolidates it all together so you dont have to piecemeal your recovery plan. With all due respect I think your judgement that it is a scam is unfair.
@lynnhaz I would like to point out that I did not refer to the Bone Coach program as a "scam". It looks like a well-designed integrative program. Perhaps parts of the program have empirical (published peer-reviewed evidence published in a scientific journal). I wholly support licensed PT, exercise with a licensed personal trainer (I work with an exercise physiologist and licensed trainer) and a licensed nutritionist. However, none of these are proprietary and with the exception of personal training our medical insurance often pays the fee.
The problem - and it's a very big one from my point of view as a scientist (now retired)- is the expense of a proprietary program that has no scientific evidence. If this is a such a beneficial program why not conduct clinical trials under the supervision of an unbiased source?
We are not medical professionals on Mayo Clinic Connect. We do offer emotional support and advice on seeking out good sources for care. The original poster asked for opinions of how you know your osteoporosis gets better? I offered my opinion.
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Here are some tips from Mayo Clinic about lifestyle approaches like diet, supplements and exercise that can help improve bone health:
- Bone health: Tips to keep your bones healthy https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/adult-health/in-depth/bone-health/art-20045060
- Mayo Clinic Q and A: Osteoporosis and exercise https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/mayo-clinic-q-and-a-osteoporosis-and-exercise/
- Exercising with osteoporosis: Stay active the safe way https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/osteoporosis/in-depth/osteoporosis/art-20044989
When considering complementary or alternative treatments, be open-minded yet skeptical and do your research. Learn about the potential benefits and risks, as well as costs. Here is an article from Mayo Clinic that might interest you about evaluating claims made by the practitioners, producers and/or sellers of supplements, therapy approaches, natural products and other alternative medicines. https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/home-remedies-evaluate-claims-of-complementary-and-alternative-medicine/
I appreciate the successes, programs, questioning, and tips for researching that have been shared by all. Let's continue to work together for our health.
Note: The last link is out of date.
@oretsina - Here is the correct link for the article listed last in @colleenyoung's post.
-- Home Remedies: Evaluate claims of complementary and alternative medicine
https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/home-remedies-evaluate-claims-of-complementary-and-alternative-medicine/
Thanks @oretsina and @johnbishop. I corrected the link in my earlier post as well.
I am trying to avoid going on anything but having a hard time finding bone strengthening exercises which is a whole program, preferably online. As you mention, there is a lot of scam out there.
Do you know of anything that might be available online which is a good program?
Functional medicine looks at the cause and how to fix it. So all the kale and yogurt won't help if you aren't absorbing calcium. One reason I joined was for the functional medicine labs. The functional medicine doctor I know has a months long waiting list.
Also what is the clinical proof for evenity - a drug that was not expected to get FDA approval and has strokes and hear attacks as side effects?