I agree. My Doctor was upset as well, and helped me get off tramadol. Very dangerous to stop taking large amounts. I remember it was a serious stuff lowering that one. I think I did it faster than what Jerry did, my doctor was flipping mad. I did have help with cannabis. I think it helped me step down a bit faster. I may have also increased something else to get me through. That kind of withdrawal for me made it a very scary drug. For me its the only one I really questioned why I was put on it. Like Jerry it was to get off a stronger drug, dilaudid! It's confusing, but as painful as it is, patience, time, blood sweat and tears, I got off both.