PMR questions about prednisone, surgery limitations, pain and more

Posted by christi48 @christi48, Nov 25, 2022

I'm relatively new to the PMR scene - diagnosed in June. I'm wondering if anyone has experience with unremitting pain in one or both shoulders. I have heard that people taking Prednisone should inform any health care provider two years after terminating use of Pred. Why is that? I have also read that people taking Pred. should not have surgery. Why? I started tapering my Pred. dose from 5mg to 4 1/2 two weeks ago and have not had any negative reactions so far. How long should I continue that dose before I drop another 1/2 mg.? This group has been immensely helpful and I thank all of you for sharing your knowledge, experience, questions and reactions regarding everything PMR.

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I have had unrelenting pain in my neck, shoulders and across the top of my chest for months. As I am tapering off of the Prednisone I have noticed the pain has subsided a little.
Suggestion: taper off of the Prednisone very slowly. You do not want to go back up because of a flare up.

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I also am tapering down on my prednisone and my rheumatologist has me dropping dosage every three weeks and I'll be dropping from 10 mg to 9 mg and will continue this until I am completely off the prednisone but I'm also on Hydroxychloroquine 200mg twice a day which the plan will be I stay on this medication until she feels necessary.

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Hi Christi48 - a couple of questions. 1. You don’t say what your initial Prednisolone dosage was, back in June. If you’re on 4.5mg now, that sounds like a rapid taper. Maybe a cautious fortnightly ½mg reduction from now on would be advisable. You don’t have to rush; you are now in low dose territory, where adverse effects from the medication are less likely; 2. You don’t mention your current pain levels, if any. Are you pain free on your current dose? Like you I am now on 4½mg daily, but not free of pain in both shoulders which is quite severe (3+/10) particularly in the afternoons. Alleviated by exercise, but fatigue is also a problem. But I will persist with the taper for the time being. 3. It may be that for some of us continuing maintenance doses down in <5mg range will turn out to be preferable to complete abstinence. But if you are pain free, go for broke! (with all deliberate moderation of, course)

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You've got lots of advise about tapering so I won't go there but the other questions, I do have some insight. I've got Crohn's and PMR and have used steroids a lot and have never been told about the two year warning nor have I been told to not have surgery. I just had surgery on 8mg of methyl prednissalone and I consulted with my rheumy on what my dosage schedule should be for the surgery. Also my anesthesiologist was well aware of my dosage and was prepared to boost me should I show signs of adrenal shock. I was fine and it went well and I healed nicely. So just talk to all parties and go with their advice.

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Hello, you seem to be doing remarkably well considering you were diagnosed in June. I was diagnosed last November and finally reduced to 3 mg Prednisone in October by tapering 1 mg at a time. When I dropped to 2 mg, I had a flare up and had to go back to 3 mg and then 4 mg. I added .5 mg to that for a week and then dropped to 4 mg again. I am now contemplating dropping .5 mg at a time even though my rheumatologist told me that .5mg doesn't make a difference. Maybe not to him, but it does to me! He did tell me not to schedule any dental procedures without consulting him first, but these days I am so cautious about triggering another PMR flareup that I'm not even going to take a flu shot this year.

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@annettetompkins

Hello, you seem to be doing remarkably well considering you were diagnosed in June. I was diagnosed last November and finally reduced to 3 mg Prednisone in October by tapering 1 mg at a time. When I dropped to 2 mg, I had a flare up and had to go back to 3 mg and then 4 mg. I added .5 mg to that for a week and then dropped to 4 mg again. I am now contemplating dropping .5 mg at a time even though my rheumatologist told me that .5mg doesn't make a difference. Maybe not to him, but it does to me! He did tell me not to schedule any dental procedures without consulting him first, but these days I am so cautious about triggering another PMR flareup that I'm not even going to take a flu shot this year.

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@annettetompkins - I agree with tapering at your own pace to manage the pain. I was fortunate to have a rheumy that emphasized listening to my body when tapering. I ran across this unique tapering plan on another forum that might come in handy if you get stuck or are having problems with your PMR flaring. I might try it if my PMR ever comes out of remission.

-- Dead slow and nearly stop reduction plan (Tapering)
https://healthunlocked.com/pmrgcauk/posts/131189593/dead-slow-and-nearly-stop-reduction-plan

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My initial prednisone dosage was 5mg. The doctor prescribed 10 but I always try to get away with the lowest dose possible regardless of the medication. Five mg. banished my daytime pain within a month but I still have pain almost every night in varying degrees especially in my hips. I have found that heat and massage help immensely (I use a massaging seat cushion that lies flat on my bed) and I always feel better once I get up in the morning but for some reason the shoulder pain is almost constant. I also have minor stiffness and I tire easily. I agree that I am doing much better than so many people who have shared their stories and am grateful but always wary. I have found that exercise helps a lot with pain and stiffness and have been adhering to a (mostly) anti-inflammatory diet. I am also lucky to have a stress-free life right now. Thanks to everyone for you input. I always welcome others' stories. I have learned more from this group than any other sources, including doctors.

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@johnbishop

@annettetompkins - I agree with tapering at your own pace to manage the pain. I was fortunate to have a rheumy that emphasized listening to my body when tapering. I ran across this unique tapering plan on another forum that might come in handy if you get stuck or are having problems with your PMR flaring. I might try it if my PMR ever comes out of remission.

-- Dead slow and nearly stop reduction plan (Tapering)
https://healthunlocked.com/pmrgcauk/posts/131189593/dead-slow-and-nearly-stop-reduction-plan

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Thanks. Wish I had known about this earlier!! Appreciate you explaining about this slow tapering method. I read it carefully and copied it. Makes a lot of sense!

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@johnbishop

@annettetompkins - I agree with tapering at your own pace to manage the pain. I was fortunate to have a rheumy that emphasized listening to my body when tapering. I ran across this unique tapering plan on another forum that might come in handy if you get stuck or are having problems with your PMR flaring. I might try it if my PMR ever comes out of remission.

-- Dead slow and nearly stop reduction plan (Tapering)
https://healthunlocked.com/pmrgcauk/posts/131189593/dead-slow-and-nearly-stop-reduction-plan

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Thank you John, I'm definitely going to try this.

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I am having a flare up with elevated CRP of 14.5 after slowly going down over several months to 5 mg. of prednisone. A lot of pain in hips and buttocks. Exercise feels good at the time but leaves me extremely exhausted. Heat helps.

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