What's your experience with Vertiflex Superion Implant?

Posted by esperanza22 @esperanza22, Jul 27, 2020

Has anyone had the Veriflex Superion implant. I had it and it did not seem to work for me. Would appreciate any one that has information. Thanks

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"if it sounds too good to be true"..... AND The Mayo doesn't offer it.. beware?

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I have taken very conservative approach to my LSS. Thus far I have had a endoscopic discectomy at Arizona Spine Institute in 2018 that fixed my L5/S1 foraminal disc fragment causing severe sciatica. Took 3 months and a steroid shot to get full benefits. Post MRI shows original fragment actually moved from the procedure so now I am wondering.
In June of this year I had Veriflex installed at L2/L3 severe stenosis. A little disappointed but some improvement however I am still pursuing possible endoscopic discectomy and/or MILD treatment at same level. They all recommend Laminectomy but I am resisting that for now...I want to review L2/L3 with my doctor first so we are on same page.

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After 27 years of botched surgery, PT, medicine, injections, dealing with Hospital for Special Surgery (HSS) and a whole array of supposedly "good" doctors, I discovered Vertiflex through my own research. I have Lumbar Spinal Stenosis and my latest doctor suddenly suggested fusion surgery from L3-4 L4-5, to L 5-1. Although the logic of the procedure makes more sense to me than any of the proposed, it sounds too good to be true. My major hesitation is based on fact that neither HSS or the Mayo Clinic list Vertiflex as one of its suggested treatments among the dozen or so that they recommend. Can anyone explain why neither of these cutting edge hospitals recommend it and none of the numerous doctors I have been to seem to even know about it?

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@ladeedi51

Hi - I’m new to this group. Had the Vertiflex procedure done 2 weeks ago. Still in discomfort especially on right side. I wanted to ask - how are you doing now a year after your procedure? Pain? Feeling any better now? Thank you.

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I had vertiflex at l2/l3 in June 2022. Neutral impact. Hopefully it will prevent further deterioration over time. Still have "shopping cart syndrome" and some leg pain in both legs after moderate nights sleep.

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@psii

The fact that Mayo Clinic and the HSS do not offer or recommend Vertiflex is one of the primary reasons why I am skeptical about the procedure. It sounds too good to be true and the presentations do not mention post-procedure PT, injections etc. There must be a reason why these 2 premier hospitals do not offer the procedure or recommend it. Can anyone answer that question?

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I hear you. Gotta do as much homework as possible. In the end patient decision.
Most surgeons are not trained on these new minimal procedures so they do what they know the best.

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@psii

My back condition began in 03-1995 as herniated disc. I now know it was just the beginning of degenerative disc disease that has resulted in Lumbar Spinal Stenosis. I have had all the treatments including botched laminectomy which left bone fragment on my spine which had to be removed exactly 30 days after operation. I have been to supposedly best doctors including HSS. Nothing has helped & spinal fusion recommended in July of this year. I then found Vertiflex on my own because the fusion does not sound like a solution. But Vertiflex sounds to good to be true. I found one local doctor who does Vertiflex who initially suggested SCS instead but then said go see his neurosurgeon to discuss. What troubles me is: Why do doctors not mention this option? Why does Mayo Clinic not include it on its website? If it really works, the major hospitals and far more doctors should be aware of it. My other concern is how does one not bend, twist, or lift for 6 weeks and still perform all the activities the videos describe? I live alone and own my own business (age 70) but none of the explanations describe what level of care one must arrange for to properly heal. Reading the many posts causes me to conclude that this procedure would require me to hire full time help for care at home and close my business for at least 6 months without any reasonable assurance that I will not be worse off than I was before the procedure. Am I overanalyzing the issues?

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Not overanalyzing at all. I had it done in June of 2022. I know a person who had a spacer installed at a much younger age and he said it fixed his problem and he is not in his 90's. Does not mean it is right for you. I did a lot of research and decided to do it as it seems to be (and was) a fairly simple procedure that took about 30 minutes. I was mildly sedated ( like a colonoscopy) and I could actually feel the surgeon hammering it in but no pain. The results have been neutral to minor improvement. Hoping will prevent worsening. Kinda made sense to me.

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@alanwc

Thank you. I had a MILD procedure but it did not help. Now the vertiflex is recommended. My insurance does not cover either of these (blue cross/blue shield). So I am uncertain how to proceed. Is the vertiflex different than a discecrony?

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yes. Veriflex is a physical spacer that goes between vertebrae. Discectomy removes portions of the disc which sits between 2 vertebrae.

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@pablo81

Not overanalyzing at all. I had it done in June of 2022. I know a person who had a spacer installed at a much younger age and he said it fixed his problem and he is not in his 90's. Does not mean it is right for you. I did a lot of research and decided to do it as it seems to be (and was) a fairly simple procedure that took about 30 minutes. I was mildly sedated ( like a colonoscopy) and I could actually feel the surgeon hammering it in but no pain. The results have been neutral to minor improvement. Hoping will prevent worsening. Kinda made sense to me.

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Thank you for the information ! After the surgery, what were the restrictions on your activities and for how long? e.g. drive a car, PT, etc.

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@ladeedi51

I had a Vertiflex procedure back in March this year L4/5. It has helped some maybe 25%
Now after 5 months I’m experiencing a pulling from my buttocks down the back of my legs.
Is really painful walking. Each morning the first thing I have to do take pain medication.
Has anyone else experienced this and if so, do you find anything to help it. Thanking you in advance for any suggestions or help.

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I had 2 Vertiflex procedures about a year ago. Some temporary relief for a few weeks, then downhill from there. Prior to the implants, I was in pain but mobile and active. Since the implants, I have been in considerable NEW pain for a year and essentially a virtual cripple. I finally went to an actual spine surgeon. He reviewed the original MRI I had before the procedures. He quickly determined that I have "spinal canal stenosis" (there are 3 types) for which the Veriflex implants are ineffective. The Doctor that performed the implants was an anesthesiologist, not a spine specialist, which apparently is the case with many of the doctors that perform that procedure. Basically, I was originally misdiagnosed. Suggest you get a second opinion.

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@psii

Thank you for the information ! After the surgery, what were the restrictions on your activities and for how long? e.g. drive a car, PT, etc.

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None beginning the day after. I think the key is to be able to sit with your doctor and actually look at the MRI with him/her and "buy in" to whatever explanation you are given. I know this is a tall order for most docs.

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