Thank you for your reply. I did look up the discussions by the 2 people you mentioned. The first kind of hijacked someone else's discussion I sort of thought. However, I did reply to his comment. The other person just said, his Dr said it might be that. I did look at the youtube & I will try adding those to the ones I'm doing now. They aren't the same, but the ones my therapist gave me are definitely stretching those muscles. I guess after 3 years of this, I'm a little frustrated. Of course I will continue with the meds & the exercises & hope they help at some point.