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Help with meal planning with Chronic Kidney Disease

Posted by ana1966 @ana1966, Aug 19, 2022

Hello everyone!

I am so glad to have found this group. I was recently diagnosed with CKD stage 3. My doctor asked me to eat less protein and watch out for sodium. I am having a hard time knowing how much protein and sodium I should be eating so that I can plan my meals accordingly. Is there a meal planning website or any book that can help me with this? Thank you.

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ldrlaw | @ldrlaw | Aug 22, 2022
In reply to @kamama94 "Hello, @ldrlaw. Several years ago I concocted a collection of kidney-friendly variations of recipes and as..." + (show)
@kamama94

Hello, @ldrlaw. Several years ago I concocted a collection of kidney-friendly variations of recipes and as I'm not feeling well right now due to gastroparesis, I hope Colleen or Ginger can find my book for you (totally free of charge) in pdf form somewhere in one of the Kidney & Bladder groups.

Please bear in mind that the USDA and others have changed some of the parameters and values since my recipe collection was written so you might want to check some of my "old" values and parameters with the various websites mentioned here.

For example, the daily value recommended for potassium is higher. Also, manufacturers frequently change ingredients and/or amounts of same so I always read labels each time I purchase something just to make sure the contents are appropriate for my CKD.

Although I'm not necessarily advising anyone to do so, right after I was diagnosed with CKD I went on a vegetarian diet with limited dairy and no meat. At that point my renal status improved. Next, it was an easy transition for me to become "almost vegan" and eat no animal products whatsoever other than local free-range eggs and small amounts of dairy "cooked" into certain commercial breads.

Drastically changing one's diet isn't easy, especially if you're diabetic since a renal diet and a diabetic diet aren't always compatible. I also agree, Dave's is great bread but I can't afford it. I have to compromise.

Wishing you well!

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Thanks for your note. I too have gastroparesis although it's not causing me any problems that I know about....I hope your symptoms improve. I'll look for your book. Vicki

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ldrlaw | @ldrlaw | Aug 22, 2022

An additional change that has been easy for me is switching to unsalted butter. I used it for a month and my husband never commented on it - yet when we talked about it later, he said he could tell - ha ha. Another tip I found interesting at my recent dietary consult was that cherry tomatoes are better than sliced tomatoes for me.

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evdos | @evdos | Aug 22, 2022

I have one query
My nephrologist prescribes, inter alia, to avoid salt in my Kidney/Diabetes diet.
At the same time he prescribes for me SODIUM BICARBONATE - 2000 mg per day -1000 in the morning and 1000 in the evening.
My wife quite rightly says this is an OXYMORON.
Can anyone Kidney dietitian or Nephrologist explain this to me?

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cekkk | @cekkk | Aug 22, 2022
In reply to @evdos "I have one query My nephrologist prescribes, inter alia, to avoid salt in my Kidney/Diabetes diet...." + (show)
@evdos

I have one query
My nephrologist prescribes, inter alia, to avoid salt in my Kidney/Diabetes diet.
At the same time he prescribes for me SODIUM BICARBONATE - 2000 mg per day -1000 in the morning and 1000 in the evening.
My wife quite rightly says this is an OXYMORON.
Can anyone Kidney dietitian or Nephrologist explain this to me?

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NIH reported on a study of the effects of sodium bicarbonate in a few hundred Caucasian men and women. About half the group was on placebo. After a year the placebo group came out better. I was not able to copy the link but it should not be difficult to Google.

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Colleen Young, Connect Director | @colleenyoung | Aug 22, 2022
In reply to @notmoff "Colleen - Thanks to the Mayo group for providing me additional access to other groups that..." + (show)
@notmoff

Colleen - Thanks to the Mayo group for providing me additional access to other groups that address my urge incontinence, ibs-C, swallowing issues, osteoporosis, and isolation. I want to post timely on the bladder/kidney group about an apparently now defunct issue - urge incontinence. How do I find the most recent post on this specific issue?

Were there written directions about how the groups work emailed to me, but lost in my attention to my many medical issues with Kaiser?

Thank you.

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@notmoff,
Here is how to find discussions on a specific topic.

1. Go to all discussions page https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussions/all/
2. Type keywords in the "Search discussions" field as shown in the image attached.

This one came up as the first result for Urge Incontinence
- How do you cope with Overactive Bladder/Urge incontinence? https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/overactive-bladderurge-incontinence/
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Ginger, Volunteer Mentor | @gingerw | Aug 22, 2022
In reply to @kamama94 "Hello, @ldrlaw. Several years ago I concocted a collection of kidney-friendly variations of recipes and as..." + (show)
@kamama94

Hello, @ldrlaw. Several years ago I concocted a collection of kidney-friendly variations of recipes and as I'm not feeling well right now due to gastroparesis, I hope Colleen or Ginger can find my book for you (totally free of charge) in pdf form somewhere in one of the Kidney & Bladder groups.

Please bear in mind that the USDA and others have changed some of the parameters and values since my recipe collection was written so you might want to check some of my "old" values and parameters with the various websites mentioned here.

For example, the daily value recommended for potassium is higher. Also, manufacturers frequently change ingredients and/or amounts of same so I always read labels each time I purchase something just to make sure the contents are appropriate for my CKD.

Although I'm not necessarily advising anyone to do so, right after I was diagnosed with CKD I went on a vegetarian diet with limited dairy and no meat. At that point my renal status improved. Next, it was an easy transition for me to become "almost vegan" and eat no animal products whatsoever other than local free-range eggs and small amounts of dairy "cooked" into certain commercial breads.

Drastically changing one's diet isn't easy, especially if you're diabetic since a renal diet and a diabetic diet aren't always compatible. I also agree, Dave's is great bread but I can't afford it. I have to compromise.

Wishing you well!

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@kamama94
https://cdn.prod-carehubs.net/n1/748e8fe697af5de8/uploads/2021/05/DIABETIC-AND-RENAL-FRIENDLY-VEGETARIAN-1.pdf
https://cdn.prod-carehubs.net/n1/748e8fe697af5de8/uploads/2021/05/DIABETIC-AND-RENAL-FRIENDLY-VEGAN-AND-NATIVE-AMERICAN-RECIPES-2.pdf
These are from a May 2021 post you did in a discussion about diabetes and CKD. I hope these are the ones you are speaking about. They are large files!
Ginger

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kamama94 | @kamama94 | Aug 22, 2022
In reply to @gingerw "@kamama94 https://cdn.prod-carehubs.net/n1/748e8fe697af5de8/uploads/2021/05/DIABETIC-AND-RENAL-FRIENDLY-VEGETARIAN-1.pdf https://cdn.prod-carehubs.net/n1/748e8fe697af5de8/uploads/2021/05/DIABETIC-AND-RENAL-FRIENDLY-VEGAN-AND-NATIVE-AMERICAN-RECIPES-2.pdf These are from a May 2021 post you did in a discussion about..." + (show)

@gingerw, those are the ones. If you give the links to anyone, I'm asking you to remind everyone that some recommended intakes have changed as well as some ingredients' nutritional values. Always, always, always read labels. It's a pain in the neck but I do it every time with every purchase. Side note: easier to check labels online than in the store. Another side note: despite my having to compromise and modify my renal diet to conflict less with a diabetic diet and a gastroparesis diet, my GFR is back up to 27 (3 points less than before I reached the point of needing dialysis after the shingles,) but the gastroparesis saps my energy and I experience daily nausea, though many days it isn't all day. It's been a challenge to find soft foods, purees (including baby food,) and liquids which fall within the parameters of three diets which often conflict with one another. Not likely I'll offer a GP recipe collection, LOL My advice to anyone with CKD who also has diabetes and/or GP is to study baby food labels. 😉

Peace and blessings and healing wishes to you and all in these discussions!

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