Extended release oxycodone-long-term use?

Posted by shafer1990 @shafer1990, Jul 18, 2022

Hello! My husband was diagnosed with PMR 5 years ago at the age of 50.
6 weeks ago he had a total knee replacement and has been taking oxycodone for pain. He has started to wean off the OXY and the PMR pain and exhaustion is full throttle. He has continued with his prednisone (14 mg) during these past 6 weeks.
Yesterday was a terrible day. He had been without the pain medication for over 18 hours and spent half the day in bed sleeping and in pain. When he finally took an OXY, he was a new man. Mind you, this whole time he has remained on his prednisone.
Has anyone been prescribed OXY as a treatment for PMR?
Thank you.

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@njtodctode

Hi. I am new to the world of PMR and it's horrible....In the 90's I was diagnosed with chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, Sjogren's disease, osteo arthritis and basically managed my pain with hydrocodone and tramadol with no side effects, and plaquenil. These meds kept me working in a very crazy busy all consuming career. In 2015 I was diagnosed with RA. We doubled the placquenil and added 3 mg. of prednisone because I got infections when we tried methotrexate. Things settled...I started having problems with my knees and eventually had to go on disability. Last year I went through a big downsizing and sold a house and moved to DE from DC area. They've was hard on me physically.and I noticed a big increase in my symptoms. Because of the issues with pain meds as my pain increased the meds did not change. I have tried oxycodone but.it makes me loopy so I prefer hydocodone which has no side effects for me. I started to have a new type of pain.in new places and eventually.I could not use my hands. I went to my new rheumatologist thinking it was RA but she thought PMR. So I was.put on 20 mg. of pred. Then had to start reducing. When I got to ten.things went south, but the focus seems to be on reduction of the pred. I am struggling to learn about how to manage. The thing I realized is I am not.functioning very well with this. It's very different than my other conditions. I am waiting for labs to see.sed rate etc. I am on 12.5 pred but my pain is bad. So I will go back up. I would think med decisions would be made on pain...no? So on what can help with pain for me was 800 motrin. It's not amazing but it has helped a bit...3 x day. If your husband can't take oxygen he might try hydrocodone instead. That has been the best for my knees. Since I have been on it since the 90's and my PMR pain was so bad I can't say what it could do for PMR.
.but I believe trying things is good. So way too much info there but I wanted to tell you about the meds...and see if anyone has advice for me on the decisions.on b reducing the dose...when and why. For 30 years I managed these conditions in a way to function. This is different....I am a bit lost. Any advice or info is welcome! Thank you for reading.this. take care

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I'm in a very similar situation to you, with past diagnoses of fibromyalgia, trigeminal neuralgia, Hashimoto's, thunderclap headache, and a periodic fever syndrome. I had an extremely busy life teaching at a boarding school but was ultimately forced to go on disability. Then PMR hit on May 22 of this year. Unlike most people here, however, the PMR was only alleviated at 40mg prednisone, which is where I am now. The goal is for me to get down 35mg in a month, then 30 after that, but it will be slow and being on such a high dose makes me very nervous. In my experience, oxycodone does little for PMR pain; I take it (and gabapentin) for other conditions. Truly the only thing that has helped is prednisone. I think every body is different, reacts to meds differently, and recovers at different paces. Trial and error certainly plays a big role in all this. These conditions are just brutal. I hope you find relief.

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Hi. I agree the real key for PMR is prednisone. I was wondering if flexibility might help my hips and back. I cannot imagine being on 40 of pred. I already have a Charlie Brown head....and working towards Pillsbury Dough Boy! But right now I just want my.pain to settle. I am sorry you are dealing with layers of conditions....I am glad you.were able to work. I am sure.disability was a relief but also.very difficult to.accrpt on some level. I hope your PMR responds to the pred and you can successfully reduce your dose. .take good care of yourself!

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@johnbishop

Hello @njtodctode, Welcome to Connect. It does sound like your rheumatologist is right about it being PMR. I think one thing all of us have learned with our PMR struggle and tapering down on prednisone is that you definitely need to listen to your body. If the 20 mg prednisone pretty much eliminated your aches and pain within a few hours and keeps you pain free all day, that is pretty much how PMR is diagnosed. Tapering slowly is the name of the game with PMR.

There is another discussion you might find helpful:
-- PMR Dosages and Managing Symptoms: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/pmr-dosages/

When did your rheumatologist diagnose the PMR and start you on prednisone?

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One quick q....I have not gotten the.4th covid shot. I want to get.the.updated version in Sept. but I am nervous with PMR AND pred....not sure what to do. I got pretty sick with all doses for about 4 days then fine. Another thing to consider. Have you all gotten the 4th.shot?

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@njtodctode

One quick q....I have not gotten the.4th covid shot. I want to get.the.updated version in Sept. but I am nervous with PMR AND pred....not sure what to do. I got pretty sick with all doses for about 4 days then fine. Another thing to consider. Have you all gotten the 4th.shot?

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Yes, I have had the 2nd Pfizer booster vaccine but my PMR is in remission and I'm not currently on prednisone. I would discuss your concerns with your doctor or primary care team.

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@njtodctode

Hi. I agree the real key for PMR is prednisone. I was wondering if flexibility might help my hips and back. I cannot imagine being on 40 of pred. I already have a Charlie Brown head....and working towards Pillsbury Dough Boy! But right now I just want my.pain to settle. I am sorry you are dealing with layers of conditions....I am glad you.were able to work. I am sure.disability was a relief but also.very difficult to.accrpt on some level. I hope your PMR responds to the pred and you can successfully reduce your dose. .take good care of yourself!

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Thank you so much. You're right about disability: it was the hardest thing I ever had to do. I loved my life and had to give up everything when I left my job. But I am fortunate in other ways and try to remind myself of that. As for Charlie Brown, I have long surpassed that, sadly. I call myself a Steroid Puffball. Like you, I had terrible PMR pain in my hips: at one point I had to use a walker and later couldn't walk at all. That's when they put me back to 40mg, and I finally accepted prednisone as the lesser of the evils. My doctor said that if you step down and still have pain it will aggravate the condition, so I'm following her guidance to take it slowly. I hope you get to a dosage where your back and hips are better. I make myself walk as much as I can (not much) to try to maintain some flexibility. I really hope you get some relief soon and appreciate your kind thoughts.

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@ldingwall88

Thank you so much. You're right about disability: it was the hardest thing I ever had to do. I loved my life and had to give up everything when I left my job. But I am fortunate in other ways and try to remind myself of that. As for Charlie Brown, I have long surpassed that, sadly. I call myself a Steroid Puffball. Like you, I had terrible PMR pain in my hips: at one point I had to use a walker and later couldn't walk at all. That's when they put me back to 40mg, and I finally accepted prednisone as the lesser of the evils. My doctor said that if you step down and still have pain it will aggravate the condition, so I'm following her guidance to take it slowly. I hope you get to a dosage where your back and hips are better. I make myself walk as much as I can (not much) to try to maintain some flexibility. I really hope you get some relief soon and appreciate your kind thoughts.

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You have totally summed up what has gone.on for me...I need to talk to my rheum. We are just reducing even tho symptoms are there. I love that your doc said if you reduce too soon it makes it worse because that is totally true!! I would assume...you know better than I that at the top dose you should be close to pain free (relatively speaking) before you start.reducing....and then reduce after things.are steady for a bit. This is not a linear disease. I need to hear what my doc says healing is....so you take the pred then what.happens
What is getting better? Anyway finding this site. has been the best learning experience. I have such gratitude for you all already! Be well...take it slow.and hang in. Hugs...m

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@njtodctode

You have totally summed up what has gone.on for me...I need to talk to my rheum. We are just reducing even tho symptoms are there. I love that your doc said if you reduce too soon it makes it worse because that is totally true!! I would assume...you know better than I that at the top dose you should be close to pain free (relatively speaking) before you start.reducing....and then reduce after things.are steady for a bit. This is not a linear disease. I need to hear what my doc says healing is....so you take the pred then what.happens
What is getting better? Anyway finding this site. has been the best learning experience. I have such gratitude for you all already! Be well...take it slow.and hang in. Hugs...m

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From what my dr said, you need to be mostly pain-free before stepping down. I'm at about 90% so I'd like to try it now, but she's not convinced that I've given it enough time to totally calm down the flare--and the last thing I want is to have to start all over again so I'm trusting her. A lot of people on this site have talked about how their drs (rheum, neuro, GP) focus on getting off prednisone to the exclusion of almost everything else. I know it's a toxic drug, but to me, the worst thing would be taking just enough to lower the pain but not enough to actually eliminate the inflammation. (Almost like only taking enough antibiotics to alleviate the symptoms of an infection but not enough to eradicate the infection itself.) It's such a hit-and-miss. Some days I have very little PMR pain, then others smack me right back down. Like you say, not linear. I hope your rheumatologist is responsive to your concerns. This site has been amazing! I felt totally alone until I found it. Feel free to reach out anytime and take care. -Leigh

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@ldingwall88

From what my dr said, you need to be mostly pain-free before stepping down. I'm at about 90% so I'd like to try it now, but she's not convinced that I've given it enough time to totally calm down the flare--and the last thing I want is to have to start all over again so I'm trusting her. A lot of people on this site have talked about how their drs (rheum, neuro, GP) focus on getting off prednisone to the exclusion of almost everything else. I know it's a toxic drug, but to me, the worst thing would be taking just enough to lower the pain but not enough to actually eliminate the inflammation. (Almost like only taking enough antibiotics to alleviate the symptoms of an infection but not enough to eradicate the infection itself.) It's such a hit-and-miss. Some days I have very little PMR pain, then others smack me right back down. Like you say, not linear. I hope your rheumatologist is responsive to your concerns. This site has been amazing! I felt totally alone until I found it. Feel free to reach out anytime and take care. -Leigh

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Thank you Leigh. I appreciate it. I just got a call to go.up from 12.5 to 15 but we will see. But the info gained here has given me more.of an understanding of what my body has been telling me. I will trust that....it has served me well. So we will see! Take good care. I am here as well if you need to talk. Let us all be well. Mickie

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@njtodctode

Thanks for the reply. I was diagnosed in May. The 20 worked after a few days. Stayed on 20 for 2 weeks then 15. Symptoms backtracked some. Then 10. I was told to try 12.5. Didn't do much. My pain doc suggested I try 20 again which I did. 2 weeks then 15. My labs showed some reduction in my inflammation level. But I have intense pain in my hips and back and shoulders. I can't do anything. Never had back pain before. I am now on 12.5 but I think I need to go back up. My.rheumotogist wants me to try an immune med too....I don't really want to. Methotrexate made me sick right away...so she said there are others but......not sure what to do. I hope I get my labs today that will give us a piece of info. So.

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@njtodctode Oh my gosh!! Yo-yoing is not good. Pain is not good. If 20 worked, I'd go back there and stay awhile. Once you're stabilized (say after a month), see if you can reduce to 17.5. Your objective is to find the lowest dose of prednisone while experiencing a reasonable comfort level. There's very little evidence that other drugs do much good, but rheumy's often want us to try. For some there are side-effects and for many there is no help at all. And also there should be some reduction in your blood inflammation markers since you are on prednisone. That does not indicate that the PMR is improving. Your earlier post stated "Then had to start reducing." Why? None of us wants to be on prednisone, but it's the only thing that works for PMR. If you don't take enough prednisone, your inflammation will accumulate and you'll have flare. I sure wish someone could take the accumulated knowledge of those who have lived with PMR for years, and document a sound protocol. So many people are not being treated correctly. That's partly because there is no one answer. You have to find what works for you. But we do know some things for certain: quick tapering rarely works; yo-yoing is not good; slow taper until your body tells you otherwise; as you get to 4-7 mgs. prednisone watch for adrenal struggles. There are flare and sick-day protocols. Oh I'm sure there is more advice out there. I hope this helps a bit.

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Hi...I hear you. I feel like I have been circling in the dark for months. Getting down on pred has been the focus. It never made sense to me...the missing piece seemed to be level of symptoms. My rheum wants me to go on methotrexate but my gut says stick with pred only but go as slow as symptoms require. I didn't do well on methotrexate for RA, only made it a week. So
....thank you for your reply. What I hear from you and the others on here is helping me so much....and will help me push to take things slower if needed. Take good care of yourself.

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