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I’ll look into that ! I’m still suffering 10 years now .
I’ve done all the other stool tests. Nothing showed up .
I do have 7 diagnoses, but nothing helps me .
I’ve tried it ALL .
Thanks …
Mark, I am in the military as well and have been going through every single symptom you have mentioned in your write up, every one. plus an autoimmune disease (ITP) all following my Pfizer vaccine. Please respond back to me I would love to talk!!
Omg i taught i was going crazy i read all the comments and is crazy to think i have everything you said i been in the hospital more then 40 times in this last year same symptoms including random chest pain. Doctors say it gastritis with a bit in my head but i know is not in my head specially reading that you feel the same things as me. No matter what test i do it all comes negative i even ended up doing all test for chest because sometimes the pain felt like a heart attack also all negative. I dont know what else to do i pretty much cant work because my head is on fire and with the sweat and the pain i cant do anything but stay home and complain about the pain and no i dont have the vaccine for covid so that the only thing that is not common to what you had but i am 33 year old also this all started about a year ago i got a huge headache and ended at the hospital they gave my medication got home it went away for a week and then started with nausea and stomach pain i dont drink at all or smoke so im not sure what it is doctor say it can be anxiety but is not because i can be normal a few hours in bed and out of nowhere everything starts i also take omeprazole 40 mg ones a day and pepsid 20 mg at night also have clorazepam if i feel really bad. I get these weird huge burning sensation in my head like my head is on fire nothing helps and i done all the test also everything negative please if any updates please let me know
Hi Mark and everyone who has commented here. I understand your frustrations with no test results coming back positive, or when a test comes back positive, the treatment doesn’t fix the chronic pain and symptoms. I have struggled with similar issues for over 50 years. Here is what I have learned in the past 3 years. My journey is not complete, but hopefully this information will help all of you consider a new perspective that might help in your healing. 😊
Possible cause: Ileocecal Valve Syndrome/Dysfunction
Articles
drsflink.com. “How your spine can affect your health”
acupuncture-westlondon.com. “Ileocecal valve dysfunction”
drhagmeyer.com. “Healing the ileocecal valve and why its important in sibo”
These articles provide an overview of what ileocecal valve syndrome is and how to treat it.
Mark, your symptoms are very similar to mine. When you spoke of spontaneous neck pain, I knew this was coming from your GI. What is happening is referred pain from your GI, probably your ileocecal valve. Pain excites the fight/flight response which overstimulates the vagus nerve, which causes the ileocecal valve to spasm. The spasms create dysbiosis, bacterial overgrowth long-term, and poor bowel movements. The pain then competes the loop, re-exciting the nervous system. Antibiotics, steroids and antihistamines irritate the autonomic nervous system as well as disrupt the intestinal lining, making it more permeable. There is even more that feeds into this loop, like head and neck injuries, but this is the basics. See the article above on the spine.
What to do:
GI Mapping test - Diagnostic Solutions Laboratory - This company will help you find a provider in your area. This is a stool test you do at home. It is expensive (about $600), but it tests for over 80 pathogens. They also work with your provider to create a custom treatment plan. This was the beginning of my healing journey. With this test, you will know exactly what is going on in your micro biome.
If possible, nutrient deficiency test and food sensitivity test. All of these you should be able to get from your provider above.
If these tests are not an option right now:
Get on a good multivitamin, vitamin D3, fish oil, and magnesium glycinate. Get on a good probiotic. Pure Encapsulations is a good brand, and you can order directly from their website. They offer all of these things. It may take some time to find the right probiotic without the GI Mapping test, BUT you can start with a basic one and see how you do.
Diet: avoid all sugar, dairy and gluten. I know, this is hard. But gluten will irritate and already irritate system. Avoid hard, fibrous foods, like chips. Take a break and purée your food for a few weeks. Add solids back in slowly. Give your ileocecal valve a chance to heal on its own. Chew, chew chew your food, even if it is puréed. I know! Super hard to do, BUT I had symptom relief on puréed food. Adding it back brought back symptoms. I have found gluten free oats and white or super soft brown rice work best for me.
Abdominal massage: The links above mention their abdominal massage for ileocecal valve. I didn’t like their recommendations. Slow, gentle pressure is all you need to do starting low right and working around to low left. Make sure to breath deeply. It may take a week or so to see results.
Pelvic Floor Therapy: If you have had this problem for a long time or if you have had a head, neck or spine injury, this would be a great option. The fascia in the abdomen is what causes the referred pain in the neck and elsewhere. Loosening this up has helped my quality of life. But if this is not an option, learn how to work your diaphragm through proper breathing techniques. There are videos on YouTube to help with this.
This is all I have for now. Please reach out if you have questions. Just remember, all I can offer is information I have learned that has helped me. I am not a doctor. 😊🌷🙏
Please get checked for bowel blockages which can give symptoms of dirrahea & constipation. Also body sweats & severe body pain seem to be the bodys way of dealing with these blockages. I know this as I also suffer similar. Had all the tests imaginable over the years. Also get a good Collorectal Surgeon to check the main artery in your gut that runs length of the body to your heart. Please dont ignore this, it may show an answer. Good luck Donna Australia
It's like I typed this post myself. I have to exist in such a specific way to keep myself from having too many symptoms. I deeply understand your physical and spiritual pain. Let's both continue to do what we can to help ourselves. I will say I went through EXTREME stress when my journey began. I think in some ways that stress changed my body permanently. Just guessing, but that's how it feels. My current goal is to lose weight and eat in smaller portions. Can't drink coffee or drink like I used to. :(. Feels good to rant and bond. Thank you
I know this is old, but did you ever get your symptoms fixed? I’m having similar issues. But I figured out that with my hiatal hernia pulling my stomach up, is also pulling up on my ileocecal valve making it sore/inflamed and causing more gut issues/inflammation. Except the GI doctors don’t acknowledge it. I have hyper mobile Ehlers Danlos Syndrome (weak connective tissue) so it don’t take much for one thing to mess with another, especially a valve like the ileocecal valve. I did a bunch of testing and meet with surgeon Tuesday to hopefully get the hiatal hernia repaired, which in return will fix the ileocecal valve issue as well.
So what do you give your patients that test positive after microbiome tests ?
Is yours a stool test or blood test ?
I just had very extensive bloodwork done , also did ova & parasite stool testing and reg stool tests .
I have 7 diagnoses, tried everything. Still I suffer . It’s chronic 10 years .