Stage 3 Kidney Disease and Diet: What can I eat?

Posted by carnes @carnes, Jun 11, 2018

It seems there is very little you can eat that is healthy for the Kidneys. The web site Davida has plenty of food on it but contradicts what other sources say. Anyone know anything for breakfast, lunch and dinner that does not have any sugar or flour bodies the obvious boring or bland foods good for Kidneys and I’m allergic to sugar of any kind of sweetener and flour. Thank you.

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@gingerw

@collegeprof I hope you will continue to let us know how your case journeys on, and improvements you see. Sharing news with fellow members is always educational, and may be of help to others in a similar situation!

Do you know what herbal tea she will be using? I love having a cuppa tea at day's end.
Ginger

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Hi Ginger:

As you may recall, I started receiving treatments from an acupuncturist. In a couple of weeks, my GFR went from 39 to 45. Flash forward to the end of last month of February, my GFR was 44, about the same. So I am stable with no additional improvement yet. I have not received any Chinese herbal treatments yet so this journey will be long as the disease. However, I was warned by my new Mayo nephrologist and dietitian that herbal teas can be dangerous and in some cases not reversible to further kidney disease. I continue to receive once weekly acupuncture visits.

To complicate things for the better, I started taking the prescription drug called Farxiga, recommended by my my nehrologist and endocrinologist . For those with type 2 diabetes , the science says it works to stabalize kidney function in many cases. I am hopeful that this may also aid improvement, or at the very least, continue to be stable for the kidneys. Of course, you also need to adhere to your dietitian and exercise.

So as they say, "time will tell." I am lucky as I can get lab work done with my PCP to monitor my creatinine and GFR levels. It is tough for me to see my Mayo nephrologist more than twice per year. Lastly, I get lab draws within and outside Mayo, but with the exceptions of GFR and glucose, my remaining results are all normal which the acupuncturist may or may not receive total credit.

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@collegeprof

Hi Ginger:

As you may recall, I started receiving treatments from an acupuncturist. In a couple of weeks, my GFR went from 39 to 45. Flash forward to the end of last month of February, my GFR was 44, about the same. So I am stable with no additional improvement yet. I have not received any Chinese herbal treatments yet so this journey will be long as the disease. However, I was warned by my new Mayo nephrologist and dietitian that herbal teas can be dangerous and in some cases not reversible to further kidney disease. I continue to receive once weekly acupuncture visits.

To complicate things for the better, I started taking the prescription drug called Farxiga, recommended by my my nehrologist and endocrinologist . For those with type 2 diabetes , the science says it works to stabalize kidney function in many cases. I am hopeful that this may also aid improvement, or at the very least, continue to be stable for the kidneys. Of course, you also need to adhere to your dietitian and exercise.

So as they say, "time will tell." I am lucky as I can get lab work done with my PCP to monitor my creatinine and GFR levels. It is tough for me to see my Mayo nephrologist more than twice per year. Lastly, I get lab draws within and outside Mayo, but with the exceptions of GFR and glucose, my remaining results are all normal which the acupuncturist may or may not receive total credit.

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@collegeprof It's nice to read your eGFR is improving! Having a stable reading is important not only for your body, but peace of mind, don't you agree?

Good for you, keeping up with monitoring how you respond to this new medication. I sincerely hope it works well for you. Please let me know how you feel in a month or so, as it works in your system. Diabetes is one of the two main causes of chronic kidney issues besides high blood pressure, and taking charge of your health to be the best you can be is critical, and a job!
Ginger

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Eggs come attractively to mind. I eat 4 each morning, made up in many different ways.

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@collegeprof

Hi Ginger:

As you may recall, I started receiving treatments from an acupuncturist. In a couple of weeks, my GFR went from 39 to 45. Flash forward to the end of last month of February, my GFR was 44, about the same. So I am stable with no additional improvement yet. I have not received any Chinese herbal treatments yet so this journey will be long as the disease. However, I was warned by my new Mayo nephrologist and dietitian that herbal teas can be dangerous and in some cases not reversible to further kidney disease. I continue to receive once weekly acupuncture visits.

To complicate things for the better, I started taking the prescription drug called Farxiga, recommended by my my nehrologist and endocrinologist . For those with type 2 diabetes , the science says it works to stabalize kidney function in many cases. I am hopeful that this may also aid improvement, or at the very least, continue to be stable for the kidneys. Of course, you also need to adhere to your dietitian and exercise.

So as they say, "time will tell." I am lucky as I can get lab work done with my PCP to monitor my creatinine and GFR levels. It is tough for me to see my Mayo nephrologist more than twice per year. Lastly, I get lab draws within and outside Mayo, but with the exceptions of GFR and glucose, my remaining results are all normal which the acupuncturist may or may not receive total credit.

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The side effects for Farxiga look pretty daunting, especially as a drug to lower blood glucose. A ketogenic, or low carb diet can do the same with no side effects.
https://www.askapatient.com/viewrating.asp?drug=202293&name=FARXIGA

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@jkluv7

The side effects for Farxiga look pretty daunting, especially as a drug to lower blood glucose. A ketogenic, or low carb diet can do the same with no side effects.
https://www.askapatient.com/viewrating.asp?drug=202293&name=FARXIGA

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There could be side effects on any drug you take. My endocrinologist and Mayo nephrologist say that the science of this product speaks volumes. My acupuncturist would probably agree with you. I need to follow the science and my Mayo dietitian.

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I am losing too much weight. What are some things I can eat to hold my weight steady.

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@marlinhampton

I am losing too much weight. What are some things I can eat to hold my weight steady.

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Welcome @marlinhampton. I moved your question to this existing discussion about diet and CKD.
- Stage 3 Kidney Disease and Diet: What can I eat? https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/3rd-stage-kidney-disease/

Losing too much weight must be concerning. I'm inviting fellow members @collegeprof @jkluv7 @gingerw @cehunt57 @carnes @2011panc @kamama94 @trishanna and others to share their tips about what they might recommend eating to keep weight steady with stage 3 kidney disease.

Marlin, do you work with a nutritionist or dietitian?

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@trishanna

@kamama94 My nephrologist tells me my remaining kidney is doing fine, although it is stage 3. Asked about dietary recommendations, but was told not to worry since I seem to be doing okay. However, I do have concerns with regard to my diet. Pardon my ignorance, but what is "Na," and are we talking about vitamin K and phosphorus?

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I'm a bit surprised that your doctor told you not to worry since you seem to be doing okay. I don't mean to offend you but are you being aware of all the salt, protein, phosphorous, magnesium and potassium you are taking in each day??? I am trying my best to keep track of these things. I do still have some questions but I will just look these foods up online. I have CKD3 and my last GFR number was 49 which went up from 44. I don't get another blood test until August. I still have to be aware of how much sugar and fat I consume. It's not easy because you don't get much flavor when you take out the salt from foods, such as kidney beans, tuna, etc. I hope this helps you in some way. Good to hear that your kidney is doing well but I would still be careful about your daily intake of food. Best of luck!! Nancy

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@mlmcg

Things have changed in the last 20 years. When I was diagnosed with End Stage Renal Failure at the end of that other century, yes, 1999. No one staged my kidney failure, so I do not really understand the numbers. (I had stage 4 lymphoma so I figure stage 4 renal failure is not good.) All I knew about my GITrack was that what I put in my mouth would affect my kidneys one way or another. The worst thing I could eat was animal flesh, beef destroys kidneys and it had to go. I was already having trouble with beef so it was not hard to give it up. I put myself on a vegetarian diet, I was not diabetic but what would it hurt me to do a diabetic-vegetarian diet. I was able to feel good and stay off dialysis for 3 years. At that time if you were told you had renal failure you could be on dialysis in 6 months.

I am happy that, today, others are on a diabetic-vegetarian diet and it is working for them too. Getting use to a new lifestyle change is not easy. For me it was not too hard, I lived by myself, fixed all my own meals and I did not buy things I could not eat - no junk food. I first made a list of foods I could have then went from there - not what I could NOT have. It is just like your wardrobe, you know what works well together so that is what you wear. I like trying new things, if it was on my new food list I would try them together. If I did not like them I would not do it again.

The hard part is if you do not live alone. When my father was diagnosed with diabetes everyone went on the same diet, everyone lost weight and felt better. If your family will not help with your lifestyle change (for medical reasons) then they should not be welcome at your table or you should not eat at theirs. If you grew up eating beef and it was 75% of your meal or any other animal flesh then be thankful you made it this long. A good salad is wonderful, I can make it my entire meal. All fresh vegetables are good to eat raw and good for your body. I might cook some macaroni, adding all the fresh raw vegetables in my refrigerator with a little olive oil and vinegar. I like frozen white corn and petite peas in my salad. I just microwave them for about a minute and they are delicious. I might add carrots, mushrooms, a small amount of lettuce, low-sodium seeds or nuts, cheese and/or cooked white chicken meat, and whatever I have in a big bowl. If I have low sodium crackers I will have them too,

I am thankful that what I did over 15 years ago is now a regular diet for End Stage Renal Failure. I know my doctor had his new patients start a diabetic-vegetarian diet and they did not have to begin dialysis ASAP. He was very happy that I managed to stay off dialysis for 3 years, he never had anyone stay off that long before just from what they ate. I also took my meds as directed.

mlmcg

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Wow, you have had quite a ride. Very happy to see that you took charge and ate the best foods that you could and that you cut down on the red meat. I live alone but I really don't like to cook (even though my mother was an amazing cook). I am up late at night so I have a very difficult time finding foods that won't be bad for me to snack on. I did find baby cucumbers so I have them with a tiny bit of salt on them, also low salt popcorn. Any suggestions for a healthy snack??? I would really appreciate anyone reading my comments to se what you do. It's a bit difficult trying to keep track some days. Limit dairy, sugars, fats, but I do my best.

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@kamama94

Hi @nosurgery . I'm a 73 yo retired nurse, small world, eh? Although I don't have diverticulitis (yet, knock on wood) I do have divertiiculosis, which many people my age do have. A perforated bowel and peritonitis are no-joke risks so I see why you have to be so careful. At the same time, having only one kidney (me, too) means being careful about that as well. Although I've consulted with a renal dietitian I've found much better, more up-to-the-minute info at two websites. As a new member I can't post URLs but I can tell you that one is called self (capital S) nutrition data and another is my food data (no spaces) dot com; both list complete nutritional values of various foods, including potassium, phosphorus, fiber, and sodium. Maybe you'd like to google them? Meanwhile, good luck balancing diverticulitis diet with renal diet.

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Hello, re other sites I have gone to DaVita and printed out a lot of info. Another great site for info that you need. Give it a try and best of luck.

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