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Hi, Windyshores,

This is especially interesting to me as I only qualify by age, since don't have high blood pressure and am a woman.

May I ask if you are below the cut-off age (I forget what it is)? I'm 76 so I do qualify with that one CHADs2 [sic?] point.

I may be repeating myself, but the arrhythmia specialist I saw at the Cleveland Clinic doctor there assumed I would need to take the blood thinner both because of age and sex. You expressed surprise that he had apparently not heard of the gender write off.

(Or is that guideline gender still somehow controversial?)

If I recall rightly you only get AFIB ~ once a year (albeit with great fanfare - ambulance and heavy duty symptoms). I OTOH get it ~ daily, but with almost no symptoms (slight breathlessness sometimes).

Perhaps that frequency even without symptoms, factored in his recommendation. Certainly, my local cardiologist still feels I need a blood thinner. (Didn't ask him about the weighting of gender in that decision. I will.) To note, though, my overall impression of the local doctor, is that he is "old-fashioned" overall - i.e., follows guidelines that were in place previously. That he's not up to date, to say the least.

Certainly, it wouldn't explain the directives of the Cleveland Clinic doc, who is quite young (to my eyes anyhow). Frighteningly, too, he is considered a world class arrhythmia
specialist! :O

Thank you!

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I am 71. You have it a lot more frequently than I do. I believe there are two CHADS score systems. Aside from, the issue of gender I think one has an age cut off of 75 and another one has the cutoff at 65.

I'll pick whichever one says I don't need a blood thinner!

There are two scoring systems:
CHA2DS2-VASc
Over 75 adds 2 points, over 65 adds one point on this score: https://www.mdcalc.com/cha2ds2-vasc-score-atrial-fibrillation-stroke-risk This chart still has female gender.

CHADS2
https://www.mdcalc.com/chads2-score-atrial-fibrillation-stroke-risk This score has only 75 and does not include gender as a risk factor.

Apparently CHA2DS2-VASc supercedes CHADS2 these days so not sure why my doc said gender had been removed from consideration.

I am a two on the CHA2DS2-VASc and a one on the CHADS2. It appears it is my doc, not yours, that may be behind the times!