Zometa infusions to help prevent bone loss from cancer treatments

Posted by trixie1313 @trixie1313, Jun 13, 2019

Has anyone had Zometa infusions to help combat the effects of aromatase inhibitors (bone loss). I have osteoporosis of my spine and osteopenia of the hip and am told I need this to prevent future fractures.

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I take a supplement that has all three (calcium, vitamins D3 and K2). I just buy it at a vitamin store. You can likely find K2 at one or online.

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@omega20

Where can one buy the K2 (I already take D3 - New Chapter Bone Strength)

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I ordered mine from CVS but don’t know if I will actually get it because now it’s out of stock. It was $.99 for a second bottle. So I ordered one from Amazon. It came yesterday. I got Nature Made, same as the CVS. Took the first one with dinner last night. My research said to take the D in the morning and the K with your fattiest meal. Not to take them together. But it’s pricey —same price on both sites which is why I hope for CVS to come through $18.99 (plus an almost free second bottle)

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@pbnew

A great explanation of vibrations for bone health. Watch the videos.
https://melioguide.com/osteoporosis-exercise-equipment/whole-body-vibration-therapy/

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I went to this site you posted and found the discussion about bone formation and other important parameters beyond just 'density' really helpful. There are comments elsewhere on Mayo Connect about the difference between healthy viable bone (bone that has the ability to absorb shock or respond to muscle signals and allow unusual, dynamic movements) and just old bone that hasn't been shed and replaced. The old bone would look good on a DEXA
buy not actually be a sign of healthy bone. So what is picked up by a DEXA scan is only part of the story. That's encouraging to me because sound diet, exercise and sleep might be the controlling factors for supporting the other parameters of healthy, non-brittlle, living bone and worry a bit less about DEXA X-rays?

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@callalloo

I went to this site you posted and found the discussion about bone formation and other important parameters beyond just 'density' really helpful. There are comments elsewhere on Mayo Connect about the difference between healthy viable bone (bone that has the ability to absorb shock or respond to muscle signals and allow unusual, dynamic movements) and just old bone that hasn't been shed and replaced. The old bone would look good on a DEXA
buy not actually be a sign of healthy bone. So what is picked up by a DEXA scan is only part of the story. That's encouraging to me because sound diet, exercise and sleep might be the controlling factors for supporting the other parameters of healthy, non-brittlle, living bone and worry a bit less about DEXA X-rays?

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I’m glad you checked it out. Unfortunately we have to sift through a lot of junk information to find the useful information.

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@callalloo

I went to this site you posted and found the discussion about bone formation and other important parameters beyond just 'density' really helpful. There are comments elsewhere on Mayo Connect about the difference between healthy viable bone (bone that has the ability to absorb shock or respond to muscle signals and allow unusual, dynamic movements) and just old bone that hasn't been shed and replaced. The old bone would look good on a DEXA
buy not actually be a sign of healthy bone. So what is picked up by a DEXA scan is only part of the story. That's encouraging to me because sound diet, exercise and sleep might be the controlling factors for supporting the other parameters of healthy, non-brittlle, living bone and worry a bit less about DEXA X-rays?

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If you are willing to share I’d be interested to know what diet plan and exercise routine you follow. I think both are overlooked, even ignored by the medical community to our detriment.

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@pbnew

I’m glad you checked it out. Unfortunately we have to sift through a lot of junk information to find the useful information.

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It was worth it. It reminds me of how impressive the human body actually is. I like the idea that, in a sense, muscles and bones communicate and have a feedback loop. It just seems neat to me. And makes another argument for exercise as bone-stimulating.

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@pbnew

If you are willing to share I’d be interested to know what diet plan and exercise routine you follow. I think both are overlooked, even ignored by the medical community to our detriment.

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Alas, I don't have any structured plan. Other people on these threads are way stricter about eating 'clean' and taking an array of supplements. My diet goal is to do what I think of as Eating Like an Adult, which means a lot more fresh, organically-grown, non-GMO vegetables, lean meats (Buffalo cheeseburgers are an exception) and proteins, only bovine-growth-hormone-free dairy (and usually as yoghurt). My concession to health is to at start the day with a veggie/fruit/yoghurt/protein supplement
/unpasteurized almonds smoothie. If I do that, the diet falls into place for the rest of the day. If I don't, donuts look appealing. The insulin/glycogen chemistry system is beyond me but I can feel when I ate wrong.

I do some yoga as it just feels great but skip anything that feels too unnatural. Plan to add tai chi as it looks boring (just to me) so us probably a good discipline and very beneficial. (There's some non-apparent logic in that thought, lol.) Otherwise, exercise is walking and fast walking on the treadmill set at varying levels of incline. Walking on a non-inclined surface is harder due to old lower back injury.

The best diet advice, I think, is the writer Michael Pollan's, to paraphrase, "Eat a wide range of good quality food, not too much, as fresh and unprocessed as possible."

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@callalloo

Alas, I don't have any structured plan. Other people on these threads are way stricter about eating 'clean' and taking an array of supplements. My diet goal is to do what I think of as Eating Like an Adult, which means a lot more fresh, organically-grown, non-GMO vegetables, lean meats (Buffalo cheeseburgers are an exception) and proteins, only bovine-growth-hormone-free dairy (and usually as yoghurt). My concession to health is to at start the day with a veggie/fruit/yoghurt/protein supplement
/unpasteurized almonds smoothie. If I do that, the diet falls into place for the rest of the day. If I don't, donuts look appealing. The insulin/glycogen chemistry system is beyond me but I can feel when I ate wrong.

I do some yoga as it just feels great but skip anything that feels too unnatural. Plan to add tai chi as it looks boring (just to me) so us probably a good discipline and very beneficial. (There's some non-apparent logic in that thought, lol.) Otherwise, exercise is walking and fast walking on the treadmill set at varying levels of incline. Walking on a non-inclined surface is harder due to old lower back injury.

The best diet advice, I think, is the writer Michael Pollan's, to paraphrase, "Eat a wide range of good quality food, not too much, as fresh and unprocessed as possible."

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Thanks for sharing all that. My exercise routine is very similar to yours. For 6 years I’ve been eatingWholeFood Plant Based No oil. You can find some interesting information about nutrition and also breast cancer here:
drmcdougall.com.
Have a nice weekend!

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Will check out the website, thanks for inadvertently reminding me.

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@lcr2017

I ordered mine from CVS but don’t know if I will actually get it because now it’s out of stock. It was $.99 for a second bottle. So I ordered one from Amazon. It came yesterday. I got Nature Made, same as the CVS. Took the first one with dinner last night. My research said to take the D in the morning and the K with your fattiest meal. Not to take them together. But it’s pricey —same price on both sites which is why I hope for CVS to come through $18.99 (plus an almost free second bottle)

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I take 5000 iu w/ K2

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